What Fog Lights?
Submitted: Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 12:37
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phillip owen
Hi all,
Looking at buying some fog lights. Have been looking at amber/yellow lights as I think this work better in the fog?
Just wondering what people have and how they find them.
Do I go for round or rectangular? White or yellow?
Cheers
Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 14:21
Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 14:21
Hi there phillip, we have the white ones on our commodore factory fitted and I find them great when coming down from
katoomba here in
sydney and really cut through the fog and light up the left hand line brillantly, I have had the yellow ones on my previous fairmont ghia, and found them not as good, commodore are round the ford was rectangular, But maybe the ford ones were not as good quality which I would imagine have a big affect on the way they work just like the spott lights on all our 4wd's. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Nick R - Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 15:28
Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 15:28
I have often wondered how good they really are. they must be as so many people, esp. smaller cars turn them on all the time the lights are on. Actually I have only once come accross a car like this where there actually was fog....
What are people's thoughts on this?
NickR
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Follow Up By: feral - Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 17:34
Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 17:34
Do a search Nick....you will find out what the opinions are.
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 18:14
Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 18:14
You didn't say feral, they deserve Lighforce lights at close range the way they are set up often. Commode ones amongst the worst
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 19:51
Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 19:51
Fully agree with you there John, they are great if used for what they were put on the car for which is for fog, and yes they are blinding to on coming traffic under normal driving conditions where there is no fog present, I think they must be one of the brightest on the market, funily enough they are only 55 watt must be the way the lenses are produced, but very very effective in foggy conditions. I have had my wife come up from behind on the m4 here in
Sydney and I was in my hilux and rang her mobile (yes I know naughty) and told her to turn the bloody things off as they were reflecting straight through my canopy and onto my windscreen and I couldnt see bleep , told her I would dissconect them if she uses them for any other purpose, although I have to admit I do use them on open road with my hi beam as they really light up the side of the road which is great for scrub land but as with my hi beam I turn them off the instant I see some one approch me, high beam and
driving lights. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Nick R - Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 22:32
Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 22:32
yeah feral, I should know better....
Doesn't hurt to re-ignite the debate about this one though
nick
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 22:46
Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 22:46
Know a certain Bonza bloke who will be now accustomed to the fog, who like his WANKER lights on almost in daylight.
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Follow Up By: disco driver - Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 23:04
Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 23:04
Hi All,
Aren't foglights supposed to be mounted fairly close to the ground?
I would have thought that most of the elevated(lifted) and oversize tyred vehicles on this
forum would be far too high to mount foglights effectively.
I was of the opinion that foglights were only compulsorily on rice burners.
LOL
Disco
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 23:10
Sunday, Jul 23, 2006 at 23:10
Ford Tcikford drivers, Commodes too, with the riceburners. Never focus them right, just think they look cool. Really UNcool actually and blinders......
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 15:27
Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 15:27
I understood the idea with fog lights is to have a flat beam, and mounted low. Idea being that fog often has a clearer area about 30 to 50cm off the ground, and the fog light can shine through there.
Also mount them to shine onto the road in front of the car and reflect back up on the underside of the fog.
Being in sth east Qld, we don't see a lot of fog, only a few days a year, or in the valleys on a cold morning :-). So can't see a lot of use having them here. Good
driving lights would be used more.
Can't see how you would mount them on a 4wd with good clearance and not wipe them out on something.
Friend did try mounting a pair back next to the sump guard just in front of the front axle, but projected width of beam is a problem.
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Reply By: Mr Fawlty - Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 11:31
Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 11:31
I believe the theroy is that the wave length of the yellow light penetrates fog more enthusiastically.....I have no evidence that I can sight for this but some practical examples are amber traffic lights & Blinkers seem to be more easily seen in fog than the other colours....
I fitted amber globes into the factory supplied Fogs on my Jack & they do work better than the white lights.
Round & amber would be my choice.
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 12:12
Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 12:12
The most important thing about foglights is to have lights which produce a flat beam - this means that they light up the fog in front of you as little as possible, while lighting up the road.
I am amazed how effective the standard white foglights on Pajero NM/NP Exceeds are. They really help when using high beams, because they fill in the blackness below the highbeams.
Offroad their wide beam is excellent for lighting up the bush beside the headlights.
I never have them on if there is a vehicle in front of me (coming or going) - in NSW it's illegal to use them except in fog.
Mike
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Follow Up By: phil - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:57
Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:57
Many years (decades) ago I remember reading a test of foglights in a British magazine. One of the things tested for was stray light above the beam cut off.
I wonder if any such test has been done recently.
Also in NSW it is illegal to have fog lights on at the same time as low beam headlights. Why then is it not a requirement of the design rules to have them automatically turn off. Most of them are really
driving lights anyway with quite the wrong beam shape for fog. It is also illegal to have
driving lights with low beam.
Phil I
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Reply By: robak (QLD) - Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 13:16
Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 13:16
Phillip,
I have a set of PIAA round yellow lights which came with the cdar when I bought it. They are exellent but cost about $600 US. Although the lights are round, their beam is very flat.
I think the trick to foglights is to have a flat beam beam and have them mounted as low as possible to get under the fog. A round beam will bounce off the fog too much.
R.
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