Rear storage units, kit form.

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 22:17
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I've got a mate who builds kitchens. Business is a bit slow for him at the moment and I suggested using his factory to build drawer/storage/fridge slide units for the back of 4wd's.

I've been meaning to getting around to building a unit for the back of my car for ages, but it's too bloody hard. The custom made alloy/steel units at $2000 plus are just too expensive. I reckon if someone would send me the precut and drilled MDF/Plywood at a fair price I'd buy it.

What would you be prepared to pay for a unit with 2 drawers (either two flat under the base or two on top of each other with the fridge to the side). Just in plain wood so the purchaser can decide to laquer or carpet themselves. Fridge slide would be an option.
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Reply By: Member - Omaroo (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 22:29

Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 22:29
LOL! That's how Graham, a previous mate of mine, started. His drawer business has now exceeded his kitchen business.

His website is at www.offroadsystems.com.au/index.php
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Reply By: Member - Jezza (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 22:34

Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 22:34
Hi Jimbo,

Top idea - I would happily pay $500-$600 for a set of drawers in flat pack form in a kit that contained all hinges, slides, brackets, instructions (video/cd) etc.

Brand name drawers are just too expensive, if there was a cheaper alternative I'm sure there would be a lot of interest in them.

Cheers,
Jezza
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 22:48

Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 22:48
that aint Johnno is it? if not another dude is already underway with this
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 23:14

Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 23:14
No Bruce, not Johnno. I don't know a Johnno.

Who is doing it already? Maybe I'll tell my mate it is a waste of time.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:08

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:08
Johnno is doing them.
Hes doing them in a flat pack (put together yourself) so freight will be VERY cheap, all precut, holes drilled, all done by computer.

Johnno is also in the kitchen bizzo, thats why I asked!

He started making storage units about 12-18mths ago as Concept Storage Solutions I think it was.


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Follow Up By: HK - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 16:22

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 16:22
Hi there,
Also in the process of makeing a similar unit to whats in your Patrol .I am not quite sure how to attach unit to floor. Please let me know which points or rails you use to attatch to floor.
Thanks
HK
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 08:06

Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 08:06
Rip out the carpet, make a sheet of ply the same shape as the floor pan, adn bolt that down. Then mount the storage unit to that...
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:31

Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:31
I have 2 steel rails about 40mmx20mm mounted accross the car on top of the carpet bolted to existing boltholes from the cargo tie down points. Seems pretty strong, and 4 bolts undone and can remove the lot, fairly quick and carpet stays in place.

Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: D-Jack - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 01:02

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 01:02
No don't do that, competition is a healthy thing for those in the market!
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 02:14

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 02:14
I would like to put a different slant on the topic.

I looked at building my own and had a look at the commercial systems available.

To my way of thinking, a good drawer system is a once in a lifetime investment.

We settled on the Black Widow Storage System as it has an interchangeable wing and side contour kit. So when you change cars, you remove it, buy a new contour kit to suit the new vehicle and re-install it.

Now I have all the recovery gear, tyre repair kit and air compressor permanently resident in one drawer and use the other for incidentals such as secure notebook storage and/or wine cellar as the need determines.

Absolutely no rattles and the fridge sits perfectly on the built-in slide.
When not using the fridge, I have a flat area all the way across the vehicle and back to the rear seats.

Only one minor issue, but we were aware of it before deciding.
The fridge sits higher due to the flush mounted, built-in fridge slide, but the Bride has worked out her own solution to get at the Jack Daniels cans. She places one foot on the top of the trailer hitch and presto, she can now reach into the fridge:-)

We are more than happy with this quality investment.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:34

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:34
Of course tilting the fridge is a far better solution if you want to have a play.

Many happy brides as a result of my invention. Not sure how you manage it on the flush slides though. I'd have to think about that.

Take a look http://www.rctradingpage.com.au/4wd%stuff

How much space do you lose by the one size fits all and the differences between wheel arches in different trucks?

I built mine for about $400 and I've since done a set for a Navara that work every bit as well as a commercial set, with the advantage that you don't have to have the same drawer height on each side. The other advantage is that Lynne & I can lift mine out in less than 5 mins and have an empty cargo area again.

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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 15:38

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 15:38
Dave,

I can't see how a tilting option would be practical in the BW commercial product, but as I mentioned, we have a workaround. Actually, the fridge is not always in the vehicle when camped. I usually have it sitting in the camper tent, or annex then access is even less of a problem.

I have seen your tilt design before on this forum and must say you have developed a practical solution for stand alone fridge slides. Well done!

As far as space on the "one size fits all" BW product, none is really wasted.
The drawers themselves obviously stay the same width. The side wings have access panels in the top that lift out and provide storage space inside. So the width of the vehicle determines the capacity of the side storage compartments.

If I was to install the system in a longer vehicle the back end of the drawer system may well be short of the seat backs, but another accessory can fill this gap and provide additional storage space, while keeping the top surface flat.

A the Black Widow System is a well designed, quality solution and we are extremely pleased with its practicality and capability.

Of couse, I have no interests whatsoever with the manufacturer.....blah!...blah!...blah!
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Reply By: Waynepd (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 08:07

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 08:07
I was one of the lucky ones a few years ago that managed to score a set of Red Dessert Drawers. These are carpet-covered steel drawers similar in style to the $1800 - $2000 jobs you see in the 4wd mags......

They were being sold very cheaply at $330. Designed for the the 100 Series, I managed without too much touble to get them to fit in my GU...... A jigsaw is a wonderful thing :)....

It makes you wonder just how much markup is on these things. I don't know what they sold for retail but $330 including delivery from Melbourne to Wollongong I am sure would be way below it.

A kit form would be a great thing to have on the market, especially if it is of high quality and around the $400 - $500 mark .... tell your mate to go for it.

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:15

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:15
Still got my Red Deserts!!!

brawn bought few 100 sets and sold them modded under their badge in the end
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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:13

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:13
I wish i'd had the cash to do the same when they were around.
Could have been a nice little earne eh?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:19

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:19
ya aint kiddin, within weeks, they were on ebay for $800+!!!!!!!

mate sold 7 of them :( like u, I didnt have the spare coin
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Follow Up By: RedGibber - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 19:25

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 19:25
At the time I had the coin but I didn't have the vehicle!! Rats!!

Now I've got the vehicle, and...... well you know the rest! )-:

Cheers
Red
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Reply By: traveller2 - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 08:24

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 08:24
The only problem is that MDF and chipboard do not stand up well to flexing and vibration, never mind getting wet or damp.
Weight could also be aconsideration if using thicker boards.
Most homemade ones that work well are based on a light steel frame with thin (3mm) 3 ply or similar shelves. The steel will flex with the vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 15:46

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 15:46
Good quality 10mm plywood epoxy glued will be more than strong enough for the application.
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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 09:39

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 09:39
I've made my own for the last two vehicles - out of ply. Cheap and every thing fits. I will be rebuilding the current set with a steel frame, keeping the plywood drawers. very simple in ply, no rattles, not quite as sophisticated as the bought ones, but only cost about $250

I think there would be room for budjet kits alongside the flash ones

Cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: porl - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 11:52

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 11:52
I agree, we don't all travel thousands of Km's on corrugations. beach trips for me in the main, the marine ply kit i bought from a guy that had it made up for his playdo suite me, now i've cut it back to fit in fridge and fridge slide. Never a rattle, never a movement, have taken it out many times. So yes, bring on the budget models, so long as people know their limitations.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:44

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:44
They don't even have to have limitations though.

The set I made have been all over the high country, googs track, the transcontinental railway line, oodnadatta track, the other set have done the same and the simpson desert and the RHS & bearing rails, catches, drawers and housing are as good as the day they were made. The way the side rails are done is the key to their strength and welded end caps take care of spread and twist.

The designs are on my website for anyone that wants them. If someone wants to kit them like someone has already done with the tilting fridge slide then that's fine to. I don't have the time or inclination to build a business out of it but if someone else does more people without sheds of their own can get them off them.



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Follow Up By: porl - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 15:50

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 15:50
yes but my set is real cheap, no metal or aluminium whatsover, even the drawers slide on strips of melomine, or whatever it is, glued to the drawer holder edges. I see technical competence with yours. And hey, i've looked into rollers, quality stuff but not cheap.

Still, they are second hand and have been thru stuff my shockies didn't live thru so can't be as bad as i make out.
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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 21:26

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 21:26
Dave,
does your tilt facility use the tailgate to support it when in use?
Or does it lock there independently so it could also be used with a patrol or povo pack cruiser with barn doors...
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 08:08

Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 08:08
Wayne, andrew has the same, adn uses a limiting strap on the front to allow it to tilt to a certain angle :) works!
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