Caltex..........

Reiner, isn't Mobil, Shell and BP doing the same thing? The other operators are charging the same amount for their fuel so one could assume that they are all shafting us.

Its not all the companies pulling the profits.....when petrol was selling at .90cpl the govt was getting 54.7 cpl .......... now its at 1.40 have a guess at what the govt would be getting now????

We arent the ones letting them do this. They do this because they can, the govt get so much because they can, we pay this because we have to if we want to drive or catch public transport or fly or whatever......

I hate it when people come into the store and say that its all the companies fault because its not!!! Not buying caltex fuel will not stop the situation, buying from other companies will encourage them to keep doing it too and you will not be any better off. you may feel better for your little plan it will not make any difference whatsoever. Caltex doesnt know what your plan is and losing however much a week you spend on fuel will not make them go bankrupt.

all IMHO

Laura

Boycott the lot (including the Gov't) and ride a push bike.

Kind regards

The reason oil companies are getting away with it is because there is generally a shortage of refining capacity worldwide. Greater demand, less supply, prices go up. Not that it makes it any more palatable mind you, but at least explains why it is happening.

But there are many examples of the same. Why does holiday accommodation cost more during the school holidays? The cost of the plane ticket to get you there mysteriously goes up despite the fact that logically it doesn’t cost an airline any more to fly than it did when there was less demand outside of the peak holiday season. I'm betting an umbrella seller marks up more on a wet and wolly winters day, than he otherwise would.

I guess we could ban them all, but then we’d have to sit at home and watch the telly, and what would that do to the price of a new one?

Of course, if you can’t beat them, hedge your fuel bill and buy shares in the company (not to be construed as financial advice!)

Landie

Having been told that around 10% of Australian households aren't concerned with fuel prices (in a previous post), I'll just rage quietly...for once.

As soon as my fourby is paid off I'm buying a motor bike for getting around and keeping the fourby for travelling only.

It is disconcerting knowing that the taxes i pay on fuel and everything else i buy, a large proportion is going into fighting a 'pre-emptive' war that nobody wanted. For what? to bolster our oil supplies. Seems like an ugly roundabout.

One answer would have to be to change the way we live. Catch public transport where possible, ride a bike, buy more effecient cars, ride share etc. I can see the trucking industry struggling and rail making a big come back.

A quote: "the poor are always being f****d over by the rich, always have, always will".

Don't single our Caltex for going public on the maths, the others are also doing the same. Nothing we can do about it , except bend over with the Vaseline ready..!
I'd love the Labour party to go public with a policy of reducing tax on fuel, they'd win the next election. Nobody wants to do it, theres some dark alley politics going on which demonstrates that Labour or Liberal, their both the same.

Just to add insult to injury when in Bamaga earlier this month the price of diesel went up 20 cents from $1.5x to $1.7x because the Feral Government had removed the remote subsidy.

Wounder what other locations this effected?

Now how gives us the S**ts

Not impressed.

Redeye

That's why they keep screwing us...........lets do nothing..........good plan.
Why think nobody is interested..........how about thinking a bit more positive, we the ones giving them our money, lets drive past Caltex and fill up on other stations how hard is that?

Reiner

Can I suggest that we all do a couple of things .

Firstly ;lets get our facts right before we end up in more trouble than we can handle. I understand that the duty - read Federal Govt tax - on a litre of petrol is about 40 cents per litre and it is constant regardless of the final price at the pump. What does increase is the GST which rises as the final price increases. That 10% goes back to the states and I don't hear them screaming that they are getting too much.
Secondly lets be a little less emotional and look at the big picture. Have we boycotted the banks which are turning over profits in the thousands? They take our money, give us next to nothing and charge us the earth if we should want to borrow some of it back Or Telstra which made $3000 million and still can't get it's share value up.
What about Woolworths and Coles. Are we going to boycott them? They are reportedly buying bananas for about $1.80 per kg from the growers and charging $13 on the shelf. And they are only paying $1.80 because the poor buggers in north Queensland got knocked over by the cyclone. When it comes time for them to restart supplying the market I would bet the price will be much less. It was as low as 16 cents per kg just before 'Larry'

If I was a Caltex shareholder - and this is the only one of the big 4 in which you as an australian can buy shares - then I think I would be pleased that they are turning a profit after running at a loss for the previous thirty years or so. Look on the bright side at least the profit stays here which is more than can be said for the others.

Yes I agree the price of fuel seems to be higher than WE think it should be and I wonder how our new Woolworths site in town has been able to maintain diesel at $1.319 for the past three months while all the others around have been up and down like the proverbial.

Yes we are probably being taken for a ride on a whole lot of things but I don't believe that there is any real action along the line proposed which will make one scrape of difference. The other thing is that some areas don't have an option of choice. There is one brand and they take it or go without.

I feel better now. Thanks for listening (reading)

Kevin J

What about pedals in the car....:) fred flintstone style
just remember this is just the start - unfortunately the oil is gonna run out!

Im gonna insult a few people now no doubt.

Most people are too STUPID and LAZY too bother looking for the cheaper fuel.

Most people are too STUPID too look past the 1 or 2 cents difference from supermarket fuel to independants.

Most people are too STUPID and LAZY to realize that when the independants are gone from cities they will be up bleep creek.

If a company makes the effort to shave a little more off the major retailers price, then support them. Even if they are equal.

Most people are STUPID enough not to realize that $1.42 minus 4 cents discount is the same as $1.38 at the independant.

Most people are too STUPID to work out that when fuel discounting came in at 80 cents a litre 4 cents was 5% discount. Now it is (inevitably) $1.40 that equals 2.8% discount.
When it is (inevitably up to) $2 it is only 2%.

Is anyone not STUPID enough to see where it is heading? By a couple of years time independants gone, discount is almost nothing and NO GOING BACK.

Do some research and you will see that most peoples perceptions of advertising is simple. People paying X$ at Bobs discount fuel think they are getting something better cos they get it at 4cents less than they are told it is worth. When I drove across the Nullabor last week I met an old bloke with a Patrol at Head of the Bight. We were going in opposite directions and got to talking about fuel etc.
I asked him about fuel to the west and he told me that they were all $1.80 but he had a page of vouchers for a 2 cent discount. The page only listed the expensive roadhouses. I had spoken to travellers in Port Augusta and been told Penong and Mundrabilla were the places to buy. I had filled at Penong for $1.43 and was expecting $1.52 at Mundra. This poor bugga had filled all his jerrycans and tanks at $1.78. Both these roadhouses are well within range of the cruiser/patrol.

Doesnt anyone realize how easy it is for a company to slip in here a story of a "patrol that bleep itself from using 'cheap' fuel and cost thousands to fix" or a manufacturer (Nissan has come up here in the last few days) unintentionally blaming fuel for the failure of their engine?
Doesnt anyone see that if it were the case your car wouldnt be the only one f...ed on the side of the road up from the petrol station? there would be half a dozen.

Anyone who is insulted by this statement is probably one of those referred to here.
All I can say to them is GET OVER IT.

If you use diesel you should really use Shell. Havent got the official info with me but their diesel is a better mix and normally provides me with better consumption over Caltex poo.

When will people understand that fuel companies do not control the price of oil. Oil is a commodity sold on a world market where the price is a function of supply and demand. If the price goes up because demand is high or supply is low then why wouldn't the oil companies take advantage of that, just like you or I would if it were our business and suddenly the price of our product went up?

Ando

We're getting ripped by the Companies. Ripped by the Aholes pumping it out of the ground and ripped by our own elected representatives.

The Companies are recording record profits so they're not trying to be friendly to the user.
The Oil Barons are controlling the price. These turds can cut and increase production as they see fit. They are the real winners.
The Government is screwing us as well.You might have cheap interest rates but you are being taxed at a rate never before seen in Australia's history.
Even as recent as last January the Howard Government increased fuel excise. The bill was passed in September 2005. So now we are paying more for our Home loans because of the inflation caused by rising costs.
When the GST that was never going to be introduced (another one of Howards lies) was bought in, fuel was around 80 to 85 cents per litre just depends on which state you lived in.
At 80c we pay 7.27c in GST.
At $1.40 we are now paying 12.72c per litre. So the highest taxing government in Australias history is now getting an extra 5.5 cents per litre in tax alone and that doesn't even include the 40c per litre excise. Or the excise that will come in a couple of years down the track on LPG and alternative fuel.
If you want to do something about the fuel prices start ringing your local representatives and start whinging about fule prices and what you will do to them via the ballot box if they sit on their hands.
The Government has by their own admission around 14 billion of OUR money in their coffers. By the reports of some economists it's more likely 18 billion. Thats even while we're at war with half the Muslim countries of the world.
Imagine how much money they'd have if we didn't follow George dubbya blindy into battle.
It's time for our grubby politicians to get off our case and give some of it back

about 5 years back the federal gov made a big mistake (for them) by disconnecting the excise on all fuel from CPI increases.
In effect they cannot raise fuel excise on petrol/diesel without announcing it.
Actually the excise is DECREASING by CPI yearly

"Excise on petrol and diesel will remain at 38.143 cents per litre (cpl). Excise on LPG and ethanol will be 12.5 cpl – half their energy content value."
above is from Howards press release.

there has been no change in excise for mineral petrol/diesel.
Fact is we are among the lowest taxed for fuel in the western world.