Ayres Rock

"Ayers Rock (preferably known these days as Uluru)"

Still Ayers Rock to some of us. I don't consider Aboriginal history more important than ours!
Should be respect for both cultures, fair enough they call it Uluru and fair enough we call it Ayers Rock.

Yep. Still Ayres Rock. It will never be Uluru to most of us

At least there is a lot of sand out there to bury your head in.

>> Yep. Still Ayres Rock. It will never be Uluru to most of us

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Some of us appreciate early explorers and think they deserve the recognition that political correctness tries so hard to shaft.

flame suit thrown away.

"Some of us appreciate early explorers and think they deserve the recognition", especially the very early explorers who were there 40,000 years ago.

i have just come from there. its great . climb it and walk around it, its worth it , spend time at the olgas is better for pictures, if you are camping the cost is through the roof . but all is not lost , 25kms before the ayres rock resort on the left hand side is a water tank and picnic table . turn in there and you will see a small track that takes you to a free desert campsite. no facilities at all . dont drink the water from any of these tanks , just use them for dishes and clothes washing. its bore water and you willlll get the runns. buy bottled water in this area.go see palm valley at alice springs , rainbow valley, kings canyon , there is lots of tracks 20 kms befor kings canyon that drive to the george totaly scruby and secluded to camp no one will ever no you were there, again no facilitys , but stars, you havent ever seen the milky way to you get here.have a good trip , give you vehicle a 100 pecent fluid change before you go, all the oils, coolant and brake fluid. have fun we did.

sandmanvanman.
Did you say nobody will ever know your there?????
We sure as bleep do now! LOL
Careful though if the spot your talking about is were I think it is the Conways will be mighty bleep off if they catch you there!
Have fun though.

Hey Sandmanvanman,
I'm travelling with wife and 2 kids (8 year and 5 year old) with caravan in tow.
How long do you recommend I need for this area of Ayres rock and Kings Canyon area.
I have planned approx Ayres rock 3 nights and Kings Canyon 3 nights.
Do you think this would be sufficient? I don't want to rush myself but at the same time need to stay occupied with the kids.
Thanks for your feedback
Todd.

especially the very early explorers who were there 40,000 years ago, but even more so the ones that put these places on maps for people to find, and appreciate.

tam , we have a 2 and 5 year old,we climb ayres rock with my youngest in his hyking baby cary on my back and my eldest in a ab harnes atached to me . we walked around the rock and spent a day checking out the walks at the olgas. its worth doing the sun set/sunrise at the rock but get there early for a carpark and take fold up chairs. the family pass for ayres rock last 3 days , you will need every minute. the other parks have no charges to day visit, 1 - 2 days at kings is great. you have alocated plenty of time in this area to see most of it . it all boils down to how active you want to be. have fun , its fantastic

Put my vote down for Ayres Rock...............

I also get a little bemused why areas of great public interest in our country ('our' as in black, white or brindle) are off limits............... Just travelled across the Nullabour and found the Head of the Bite (most northern part) closed. Local community only open it for a few months a year (whale season) and charge you to go and stand on this significant Australian landmark.

I am Australian, and so are the 3 generations before me (every generation having served in our armed forces), so why can't I visit parts of my own country WHEN I want and for FREE?

Any body with any knowledge of aboriginal culture would know THEY NEVER HAD A WRITTEN LANGUAGE Therefore the printed word uluru is nothing more than more imposition of white culture on them - by all means call it what you want but the name of the rock was first printed as Ayres rock

who said anything about printed word Davoe ... if the explorers had asked, Uluru is close enough to the name they would have been told for the place.

Quite a few of the explorers did give places names approximating those used by the indigenous inhabitants.

And speaking of printed word - time to go back to your history book Davoe - who was this Ayres bloke?

I'll be there end April 2007 so hopefully weather will be kind to us and ensure at least 3 days is planned in this area. Hopefully the elders of the area stay fit and healthy during this period and the spirits do not curse my family when I venture to the Summit of Ayres Rock. (Uluru) and tick of another destination visited in Australia.

Problem is not usually just the elders of the area ... it can be any Arrente elders from far and wide, or for that matter their progeny who OD or blow their brains or respiratory systems on ULP, paint thinners or other noxious substances.

Really is a very terrible situation out there - particularly Mutitjulu.