Nissan 3.0 litre turbo diesel again

Submitted: Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 13:40
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In the ‘Ask Smithy’ (Graham Smith) column from today’s Sunday Mail (Brisbane).

The question: We are thinking of changing to a Toyota Hilux or Nissan Navara 3.0 litre turbo……
The answer: …… but I have concerns about the engine reliability of Nissan’s 3.0 litre turbo diesel and couldn’t recommend the Navara for that reason.
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Reply By: Notso - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 14:55

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 14:55
You know those sort of things make us Nissan owners sob into our beer, just leave us alone for a bit EH. Says he with a 3.00 Patrol that has done 180,000 economical, comfortable and safe kilometres towing a 1.8 tonne van or Camper Trailer most of the time??

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Follow Up By: Member - Michael S (WA) - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 16:43

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 16:43
Notso and all,

I too have a 3.0 litre Patrol, mine has 255, 000K on the clock, some of it towing a camper, I get 9.3 Km per litre and the engine has never missed the proverbial beat. I think this is sheer jealousy on the part of toyota owners who realise they have made a poor purchase, never mind be consoled that we are around, ready to pull you-all out of trouble, again!

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Follow Up By: Notso - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 17:01

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 17:01
That's nice to hear, maybe I should keep her for a few more years, it's a june 2000 build. I seem to average about 8.5 Ks/L or so, and towing the van about 6.5 Ks/L.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew(WA) - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 19:18

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 19:18
What year build is it Michael S ????
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Follow Up By: AJB - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 19:56

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 19:56
Yes my GU performed effortlessly until 196000 and then said no more!
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Follow Up By: Member - youknowyouwantit (WA) - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 21:12

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 21:12
what year is it? and what series?
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael S (WA) - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 21:17

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 21:17
Notso, youknowyouwantit,

Sory for the delay, mine is a 2001, GUII Y61 wagon, and I think it is after the initial batch which genrated the poor reputation. i too get down to 6.5 kpl when towing a camper trailer on gravel / or driving in sand.

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Follow Up By: Member - youknowyouwantit (WA) - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 21:20

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 21:20
Hi Michael...

I was actually wondering about AJB's response..but thanks anyway
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Follow Up By: AJB - Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 17:54

Tuesday, Aug 08, 2006 at 17:54
05/00. Got it repaired but cost me $10,000! The good thing is I now treat it as all 4WD's should be and thats leave it in the shed until you wanna go away for the weekend or for a holiday. It is far more economical to have a modern 6cyl ford or holden for normal everyday work. The Nissan is OK but I reckon it is a little agricultural and the money you pay for them, they should be better made and you shouldn't have to pay for better performance, handling, reliability (oil every 5000K!). This is 2006 not 1966!
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Reply By: extfilm - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 18:53

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 18:53
I have just bought a d22 navara with turbo diesl and I am not happy with the fuel economy..... the car has only done 6000k's and I filled up today with 70 litres and only got 550kms...... city driving. that is 7.85km per litre....
I presume I should be getting better than that... Nissan advertised it should get 10k to the litre?????
I am really starting to regret getting the Navara for that reason. My hilux 03 I filled up yesterday and got 9.2km per litre...
Do I need to wait for the Navara to run in before I get the economy advertised?
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Follow Up By: Notso - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 19:30

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 19:30
It might loosen up a bit but these days they are so finely machined that there is very little "Running in", that used to be to wear off all the rough bits on the wearing parts.

They built em tight so when they wore off the rough machining, things were about right.
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Follow Up By: Ianw - Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 20:52

Sunday, Aug 06, 2006 at 20:52
The pleasure of driving a good machine with more power and torque than the hilux tends to make one put the boot down a bit further. Unfortunately, in city driving this tends to use more fuel!! Ease the foot off a bit and you'll find the economy will be as advertised.
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Follow Up By: bucky - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 04:24

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 04:24
When you get 20,000 km on it take it in and get it put on a dyno.

This may sort out some of your problems, but you must wait just a little, as its earley days yet, and you will have to adjust your driving style a little.

The other thing is to remember that you are driving a DIESEL commercial vehicle and lift your foot,,
It is not a V8, so do not expect it to go like one.

I get those figures, you quoted, out of D22 Navara, towing a loaded up Trak Shak, camper trailer..
Cheers Bucky

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Follow Up By: extfilm - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 18:39

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 18:39
Fueled up agin today and got 8.1kms to the litre........ The only thing I do that may have anything to do with the fuel economy is carry approx 200 litres of diesel on the back. That is 200 kgs.
I don't drive the car like a v8 and being an ex mechanic know how to drive thing below 3000rpm
I am hoping that like my hilux (03) the fuel economy gets better after a few 10 thousand K's........ My Hilux was getting 450kms per tank when new up to 30,000k's and after that, I started getting between 600 and 700 per tank.
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Follow Up By: ACT Navara man - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 21:16

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 21:16
Poor Navara STR or DX fuel economy may simply be caused by a dirty air cleaner element or fuel filter. I own a 2004 model with a DTRONIC fitted and always get a fuel consumption of 10.5 litres per 100kms. I did get a bad tank of fuel which gummed up the fuel filter. The result was when I lead futted the accelerator pedal she blew more smoke, didn't have as much get up and go, and used more fuel.
I like the vehicle. I have 20,000 km on the clock and service the vehicle myself.
I use a RACOR fuel biocide/injector cleaner treatment ever since I got a bad tank of diesel. The fuel pump system needs clean fuel or you will eventually pay the price.
If you want a job done right, do it yourself.

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Andy
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Follow Up By: extfilm - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 23:04

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 23:04
I should really hope the air cleaner is clean and the fuel filter has no dirt in it as I have only filled it up 13 times. It is only 6 weeks old and has almost 7000kms on the clock....... all city driving and majority with caltex fuel........... As for eventually paying the price? I will only keep the thing for a year or so if it keeps up these shinanagans....... I realised today that one of my machines (bobcat) has worked almost every day for the past 11 months without a service and it is still going fine. One of my excavators has not been serviced for 9 months and it has worked harder than the bobcat........... Finally I had to bite the bullet and pay someone to service all my machines....... That hurts. I am a mechanic. Although I do look after my cars alot better and always make sure the diesels get regular services as per the log books
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Reply By: bigcol - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:12

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:12
I don't have a problem with Nissan's claimed fuel consumption figures.
When my STR is empty i'm always bettering what they say it should do.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:34

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:34
From a non Nissan or Toyota owner.

Why is it that people jump to the defense of Nissan all the time on this issue, then blaim Toyota owners for "stirring the pot"?

For those of you who own 3 litre diesel Nissans and don't have a problem, that is great.

But, at the same time there are also owners of this equipment who do experience a problem and it would appear that the major issue is in getting the manufacturer to admit there is a problem and to do something about it.

One of the positives coming out of this and other like forums, is that an owner may obtain information they can then use to apply leverage with the manufacturer (or their dealer) to come to the party with repairs, so that the owner is not severely out of pocket.

Nothing more.....nothing less.
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Follow Up By: Rick P - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 14:44

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 14:44
Couldn't agree with you more mate, people seem to take it very personal when it comes to loyalty to what they own… at anyone particular time. The fact is, that among other things, quality always varies between identical vehicles, with some models exhibition tighter quality control then others.

May we, in turn, in all of these forums share our experiences and not take it on personal, if someone, who owns the same model as us, is experiencing a difference! After all, though of the same model, these are two different vehicles.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 20:01

Monday, Aug 07, 2006 at 20:01
One should always keep the right perspective on all this and realise that we are just having a little chat, with a bit of banter on the side, just like in a pub or at a BBQ, the big advantage is that if you really insult someone he can't reach you?
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