Watch out for a ford territory on Fraser Is.

Submitted: Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 17:08
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Well,

I just did what I have a go at every tourist for.
Letting some one go to Fraser Is unprepared.

Cousin from England visiting, has hired a ford territory, and is going to Fraser Is for the next few days.
Has he taken the basics like a spade and snatch strap, no.
Has he checked for recovery points front and back , no.

I did manage to talk to him about courtesy on the tracks and beach, and
Letting his tyres down, loaned him a tyre pressure gauge.
Gave me a strange look when i first mentioned it.
And of course checking the tides, and suggesting not to travel on the beach unless on the low tide half of the tide.
Anything else I think just went over the top of his head.
I did manage to check he actually had a 4wd territory and not 2wd.
He didn't even take a shovel.

What do you do? He was going no matter what I said.
He is an ex farmer, so has driven a few slippery roads at home, so reckons he can handle most things.

What do you do? He was going no matter what I said.
Did try and organise a weekend on the island with him, to save others the trouble of a possible recovery, but we just ran out of time organising it.

Knowing his luck he will have a ball of a time.
Worst part is I miss out on a trip to Fraser!
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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 17:14

Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 17:14
Take the phone off the hook :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 23:57

Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 23:57
I'd be heading to Robe personally! without the mobile
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 00:08

Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 00:08
hahahahaha that sounds like damn good advice :)))
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 17:14

Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 17:14
You just can't tell some people?????

No recovery points????, now that will be interesting for all concerned and in particular the hire company.
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 17:17

Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 17:17
Clearance is a real issue with this type of vehicle on the inland tracks. They end up acting like a bulldozer and can't push through the sand.

But I'm sure he wil have a ball.

I must admit I'm surprised a hire company is letting him take a Territory to Fraser. But maybe they don't know.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 17:48

Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 17:48
Funny, I asked him about that.
He was told the insurance "covers him for everything".
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Reply By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 18:17

Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 18:17
I agree with Al, take the phone of the hook. I haven't been to Fraser for a while but in 1984 took a 4wd Toyota Tercel to Fraser Island.

Managed to get it stuck in the ruts a few times but we knew to take a shovel.

I did manage to get to Central Station, although it took me three goes to get up that first bit of the hill at 'Urong' (can't rember how it's spelt!)

Regards Bob
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 20:37

Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 20:37
Hi there Oldplodder, had to read twice at first I thought you had traded the old girl (pajero that is) on a new ford territory, glad to see the red bus still in the profile pic. And yeah he'l probably have a ball with no trouble what so ever. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: AdrianLR (VIC) - Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 21:56

Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 21:56
If he's going via Inskip then he probably wont even make it to the barge!

Adrian
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Reply By: Footloose - Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 23:46

Monday, Aug 14, 2006 at 23:46
Being a Pom he'll be used to waiting in a que, and suffering in silence while waiting for the tide to go down, or for a kind soul to dig him out :)
Reminds me of a Yank customer I had who "had driven in Oz before". Yep, he was an expert having driven from Sydney to Melbourne. Didnt take my advice at all.
Needed 3 rental cars to finish his journey. Hit numerous wildlife at dusk etc etc etc
Being a "noo yorker" he told me he would have felt more comfortable here if he'd of been allowed to bring his gun...I told him I was MUCH more comfortable that he wasn't !
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Follow Up By: George - Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 00:19

Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 00:19
It is actually much harder for a New Yorker to legally own a gun of any kind than for anyone in Australia. But why stand in a way of a good story…
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 00:26

Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 00:26
George, this guy had a business card which spruked him as a firearms trainer accredited by the NYPD etc. He and I had serious philosophical differences when it came to gun ownership.
I'm surprised by your statement. My perceptions come from the TV news so I thought that everyone there owned a handgun.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 00:36

Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 00:36
The story is true, and occurred about 2 years ago.
Perhaps you'd like to let us in on just how difficult it is to own a firearm in New Yourk so that we can compare it with Oz ?
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Follow Up By: George - Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:41

Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:41
Hi Footloose, after some checking I wish to withdraw/modify my above comments. I have based them on what I have been told by my New Yorker friend, who claimed incredible difficulties in getting the firearms permit. Well it appears that those difficulties involved being fingerprinted and having to refute neighbours statement as to his “morals”. Apparently the police may interview neighbours as to the suitability of the applicant for a gun permit assessing his “good character” and “moral standing”. In any case they don’t have to join any clubs and self defence is accepted as a valid reason for gun ownership. So after all their gun laws are somewhat more relaxed.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:45

Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:45
Hi George, interesting, thanks. I rather got that impression from the gentleman in the story, he seemed to have trained quite a few people. I know that you're either a gun person or you're not. I'm not, and couldn't believe how "gun ho" the guy appeared to be. Quite scary at the time.
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Reply By: Member - Tim - Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 00:01

Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 00:01
Hi Oldplodder,

We will be up there on Wednesday through till Saturday. If I see a Territory stuck I will ask if they know you :). If I pull him out I'll mention that he should have listened to you.

I have seen some pretty interesting sights with the backpackers and their hired troopies so it can't be any worse than that.

Tim.
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:48

Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:48
Make a huge "scene" out of any extraction to really get the msg across, including asking him for his snatch strap/shackles, where the location of his recovery points are, even digging out a piece of paper to write up and sign a disclaimer about any damage caused during the extraction (covers your a**e too, legally).
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 09:15

Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 09:15
Ok, now that was a prick of a thing to do, but then again, he's a Pom , so we'll forgive you..! LOL
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Reply By: boogum - Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:48

Tuesday, Aug 15, 2006 at 11:48
I was told once you can telaphone, but you can't tell a pom.

Boogum
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