DIESEL ON GAS $2000

High craft auto in Snook st Clontarf or Kippa Ring not sure of the boundry or phone number.

BBB

Diesel converted to gas????? I'd like to see that!!! I do know that an add on of gas injection on diesel engines is available but the engine still basically runs on diesel.....or is there something new out there that I'm not aware of ???

Wow. If that is right, I think I'll get in line. When I heard the announcement it crossed my mind, but as it is not a 'conversion to gas', I didn't think it would apply.

Norm,

I spent some time on the phone tio Diesel/Gas Australia this morning and their phones are running off the hook.
As far as they are concerned the rebate from both fed and state governments apply and I have now booked my vehicle in to have this conversion done.

I was never that interested in the power but the cleaner burn and sweeter running plus economy is what I am after.

They are still working through a few of the emission problems however on later model and normally aspirated diesels though.

For instance I have a 1992 model 75 series with 1HZ motor and Safari turbo and my son has a 2002 model 100 series 1HZ motor and safari turbo.

Although they are the same motor and turbo, because of the year of manufacture, different emmission standards were in place at these times which in essence means the older vehicle can have the conversion within the rules however the late model vehicle may not be accepted due to the change in emmission standarsds at that time of manufacture.

Crazy and beaurocracy gone mad methinks.

The other condition is that the vehicles must be under three tons, tare weight, and be privately registered in WA.

Hope this helps.

Look here Jimbo: www.dieselongas.com/

Brisbane city council has been running thier buses on gas for years.........

Interesting. It is still a combination, but mugh higher than I thought.

I'll have to read it thoroughly.

Thanks Royce.

yea but you end up with the same problem Petrols have now - where to put the tank so you dont lose your long range tanks.

... and luggage space :(

Like these compressor and tank setups on Ebay -
Site Link + LPG tank = stay home!

In a Defender it goes next to the chassis rail.

1998 Land Rover Defender
Station Wagon
300Tdi – 2.5l Intercooled turbo diesel
5 Speed Manual
119,000km when fitted
Average fuel consumption 10.7 l/100km

Standard Power: (red line)
66hp @ 3350rpm
620lbft @ 2300rpm

DieselGas Power: (green line)
88.9hp @ 3600rpm (+34%)
930lbft @ 2450rpm (+50%)

Range has increased from 700km to over 1000km at these settings. Also note how the power is increased over the whole rev range.

This is the vehicle used in the economy example.

This example shows typical results for a small capacity, higher-revving intercooled turbo diesel.




All power figures are given as horsepower at the rear wheels (RWHP). The same applies for torque (or tractive effort). These figures are more realistic than flywheel figures; they take into account gearing and tyre size, giving you a better idea where the power and torque is produced. The figures and dyno readouts shown are accurate only for the particular vehicle tested; other examples of the same model can give different results. However, these figures are indicative of the results you can expect.

All dyno runs were done in “Shootout” mode – all figures are compensated for humidity and ambient temperature, and final figures cannot be adjusted. This means the readout can be compared to other runs on different machines done in the same mode. On the charts below, the solid line is the power curve, and the dotted line is the torque curve.

Land Rover Defender 300Tdi

1998 Land Rover Defender
Station Wagon
300Tdi – 2.5l Intercooled turbo diesel
5 Speed Manual
119,000km when fitted
Average fuel consumption 10.7 l/100km

Standard Power: (red line)
66hp @ 3350rpm
620lbft @ 2300rpm DieselGas Power: (green line)
88.9hp @ 3600rpm (+34%)
930lbft @ 2450rpm (+50%)


Range has increased from 700km to over 1000km at these settings. Also note how the power is increased over the whole rev range.

This is the vehicle used in the economy example.

This example shows typical results for a small capacity, higher-revving intercooled turbo diesel.


Under-bonnet components are mounted
on the left hand side inner mudguard 28 litre LPG tank mounted under driver's door of the Defender



Nissan Patrol GU 4.2Td

2002 Nissan Patrol GU Coil Cab
TD42T – 4.2l 6Cyl turbo diesel
5 Speed Manual
80,000km when fitted
Average fuel consumption 15l/100km

Standard Power: (red line)
96.6hp @ 3200rpm
840lbft @ 2600rpm

DieselGas Power (green line):
141.5hp @ 2750rpm (+46%)
1295lbft @ 2040rpm (+54%)




Hard to ignor

Baz.

didnt lynfox try it on their trucks & gave up after blowing too many engines?cheers

Pretty impressive Baz and it would help to clean up any soot apparent in the exhaust too of pretty well any diesel when gas was injected. The efficiency is hugely lifted.

Knowledge that one dairy company has had some huge repair bills on diesel/gas milk tankers but they can run at high revs when drivers are trying the systems out. I am not sure about the capacity of bearings to take additional torque that had been applied or burnt oil on rings either. The reductions in cylinder wetting may give other cylinder stresses. I don't know! It just makes me a little more cautious.

oldmagpie2 - "didnt lynfox try it on their trucks & gave up after blowing too many engines?cheers"

If I recall, they did have lots of problems with blowing holes in piston crowns, etc. The reason for this was pretty self-explanatory too - they used to just turn a tap on and "dump" LPG in un-metered quantities into the plenum chamber to get a boost for the hills. These days, the system has been refined somewhat, and incorporates a progressive, metered introduction of gas as required, reducing the hit-bang effect.

I've been keeping an eye on this for a while now, about 14mths (the cost has stopped me from having it done) and as far as i'm aware no vehicle has had a problem in the time that they have been doing the conversions at KLR Automotive here in Sydney.

Baz.