WA Readers PLease Watch 4 Corners Monday Night

Submitted: Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 18:06
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Hi People

The ABC 4 Corners will present an article on a Western Australia area called the Coral Coast, 1200 kilometres north of Perth. Apparently this area is a holiday mecca for the WA people which the WA Government is intent on shutting down.

Knowing the ABC they will toe the "green line" as per usual and the show will be replete with comments about pristine marine environments, dugongs, turtles, manta rays, sharks, whales, endangered bird life, delicate eco systems in danger of collapse and the usual environmentalist rhetoric calling for "wilderness". However if it follows the usual scenario most of the science will be rubbish!

In the East this "coastal lock out" started about 10 years ago and is pretty much complete in NSW/Vic and well on the way in QLD but I would be interested in knowing what WA people who frequent this area think after 4 Corners airs tomorrow (its at 8:30pm in the east, WA need to check TV guides for times).

Please post back here for all to see.

jon
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Reply By: Member - Peter D M - Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 18:32

Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 18:32
g,day jon,
spent the day at wollumbin and mebin with the club. as we know it was a nice area for a visit but all gated now.
still a a great place for a picnic and a camp over but the best parts are now a few hours walk.
will watch four corners with interest.

regards peter
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Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 18:53

Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 18:53
Jon

Having returned from WA a week ago I can tell you that the general feeling one gets when travelling the coast is that you are not wanted there. There are so many people camping at the 24hr stops off Highway 1 trying to save some money for the next foray into overpriced caravan parks or places along the coast which charge money for access but provide very little in return.

The resources boom in WA is continuing, the corporate mining giants control the state and especially in the Pilbara region one gets the feeling that you are only tolerated for the time being. Brochures tell you as much.

I can forsee tourism going the 'canned' way and by that I mean that if you don't go into a resort, hotel or motel type of accommodation you will be asked not to come to WA. They will kill the goose that laid the golden egg. As it is you can get fined for camping on the side opf the road ANYWHERE in WA. It is hard to police though and we were still able to stop over in out of the way places for the night.

And then there is the case of 1080 poison baits, but thats another story.........

Cheers
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Follow Up By: A.J - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:38

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:38
Not a problem. . . . . unless you're a FERRAL! LOL
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Reply By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 19:45

Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 19:45
Glad i know lots of great camping spots that other's haven't found yet in WA . Maybe i should take some of you eastern staters for a trip up north . Errol
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Follow Up By: A.J - Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 22:01

Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 22:01
Hiya Errol
Leave them Eastern Staters in the Eastern States!
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 22:10

Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 22:10
Now now AJ . I'm from Sydney myself , been over here just on 30 years through now . Dos'e that make me a west aussie yet .
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony T (VIC) - Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 23:46

Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 23:46
Bush camped for 6 weeks recently around the Kimberleys- but can see it getting harder in the future- didn't much care for the $5 per head to access some beaches/features etc. - now five bucks isn't much and we could all afford it but somehow you felt that you'd just been ripped-happy to put money into the areas for some facility/service etc, but we started avoiding that one- Nice Maggi Errol.
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 23:58

Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 23:58
"Nice Maggi" Sorry , that went right over my head .
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony T (VIC) - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 12:53

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 12:53
It's the Maggi olina- best bed we've found by far- but we've just got the very ordinary ladder which came with it which we are looking to replace.
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:35

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:35
Actually worked out what you meant after i went to bed (do my best thinking there) , bit slow these days LOL . We still use the ladder that came with it . It doses the job ,but I've had to fix it a time or two . Also added another 2" of foam under the supplied mattress , made it even more comfortable to sleep in .
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Reply By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 20:12

Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 20:12
Errol ,although I agree with you that there are still a lot of hidden spots to bush camp and I use these a lot as I have been going up North for years, but I can see why Willem has his opinion as for the majority of Eastern staters who don't know the area that well his remarks would be spot on as in my opinion the caravan parks in the west are a bit money hungry and generally are not to the standard I have experienced in the East.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 20:42

Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 20:42
Alot of caravan parks here in the West do very well out of acting as accomadation for miners and have little reason to cater for tourists
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 20:48

Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 20:48
That's why we avoid CP's as much as possible . We lived up there for 10 year's plus and always enjoy going back . In fact , planing has begun for next year about August September . I can see where Willem is coming from through , and as i said , thats why we avoid them as much as posable .
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Reply By: Sarg - Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 20:39

Sunday, Aug 20, 2006 at 20:39
Local knowlage over "Blow -ins"
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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:37

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 10:37
I find this whole attitude rather surprising given that Tourism Australia were bleating only a week ago in the national press that spending by locals (Australians) on Oz tourism was way down and they are trying to encourage locals to spend more money at home rather than O/S.

So what do they do, shut down local attactions to large demographic who are prepared to spend $$ seeing local sights. The WA government must be rolling in dosh if they can afford to do this....
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:25

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:25
THEY ARE ROLLING IN DOSH!! what with mining royalties and not to mention the criminal amount eric ripper slips his hand in on massive stamp duties ($11,000 for a small starter home) some of us are actually wondering where all the cash is actually going - they freely admit to being massivly cashed up......
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 23:10

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 23:10
Yet the Eastern States are still subsidising them via GST .....
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 09:06

Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 09:06
Not at all - All that budget surpluss Johonny Howard refers to is because of the resources boom, Without it Australia would be in recession it is us that subsadises the Eastern states. Economically West Aus could do without the rest of austalia but the rest of Australia would struggle without West Oz
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 10:10

Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 10:10
Hi Davoe

"Economically West Aus could do without the rest of austalia but the rest of Australia would struggle without West Oz"

Now your starting to sound like Dicky Court. There is plenty of wealth over in the east,

Have a look around the mine you work at and count the things made in WA, and the rest were it comes from or were the head office is.

But any way lets all have a good day

Richard

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Reply By: jon jenkins - Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 20:37

Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 20:37
Hi Again

I just watched the recording and have to say I was pleasantly surprised with the ABC, usually they are so green orientated it makes me ill. But although they did display some balance the usual bull about saving the whales, dugongs and dolphins was still there: there was not one piece of evidence offered that the area was not being managed sustainably. Rubbish about "beach erosion" is just that: rubbish! The potential problem about the disposal of waste (in particular toilet waste) needs to be addressed if it's not already.

However three things were clear from the Minister's very carefully worded comments (I might add that she was very blatantly wearing a bright green scarf, and no, politicians and especially Ministers do not do things like that on TV by accident, every word and every appearance is stage managed by their minders!):

1: All of the leases will be resumed and over the coming 5-10 year period and the vast bulk of free style tourism will be eliminated: the days of a beach side camp and a fish from the beach are over! All the free camping will go in favour of $500/night up market stuff. It will become more and more expensive and bureaucratically impossible to manage large scale free camping.

2: The area will become another of the highly managed: "come here; pay lots of money; look, but don't touch; say ahhh!; now p@#s off and go home" National Parks.

3: The existing Heritage area adjacent is not enough and this area will also become Heritage Listed. As a result all tourism will be based around highly managed very expensive resort style environments aimed squarely at the overseas market. Accompanying the listing will be large "no go" areas on the land and "no take" areas in the water.

People in WA, now is the time to start to fight to protect these areas, if you don't you will end up like NSW where there is basically no where you can free camp near a beach any more. Even where National Parks provides camping they make life difficult as difficult as possible, for example the latest guidelines for camping areas in NSW National Parks is to place the car park 200-500m from the campground so you have to carry all your gear on a 1km round trip to camp for the night, want some milk for a cuppa well its a 1km walk to the fridge in the car!

Jon www.trac.org.au
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