Rust in NEW Camper Trailer
Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 17:34
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Schliden
Hi,
We recently purchased a new camper trailer.
It has been garaged since purchase, and away on one shake-down trip.
Generally, we are very happy with it, however, I have noticed a small amount of surface rust on the trailer.
The trailer was apparently cosntructed using zincaneal, with a hammertone paint finish, but was not hot-dipped galvanised.
Is it typical/expected that a trailer would begin to show signs of rust so soon ?
Any suggestions as what should be done ?
Thanks
Sean
Reply By: Neil & Pauline - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 17:57
Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 17:57
Take it back if the rust is comimg from under the paint. Just poor workmanship.
If you want to fix it your self then use something like Ranex on the spots . You must paint over for a lasting solution.
Neil
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Reply By: guzzi - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 18:02
Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 18:02
Sean,
Where is the rust?
In an area that receives stone impacts or just an area that didnt get enough paint?
Did your shake down trip include a beach or mud?
Zincanneal generally needs to be scratched through the zinc before it rusts, however the heat from welding will locally remove the zinc coating near weld lines, this may rust if the paint barrier is broken or poorly applied.
Get in touch with the manufacturer and see what they recommend.
Which make of trailer?
Pete
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Follow Up By: Schliden - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 18:55
Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 18:55
The rust is appearing in various area:
1. Around the hitch (treg) and where it attaches to drawbars
2. On the underside of the main hinges for the gas lift top of the camper
3. Around the locating pins that
seat the gas lift top
4. In many of the welds, ie in the battery box door, in the back door.
No, the shake-down was just to a caravan
park, no offroad and def no beach or mud.
It was raining however.
The trailer is an Outback Camper Trailer (
Brisbane Mob)
Images below:
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:05
Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:05
Great shots, chit quality finish on the camper.
That is completely unacceptable, no question. Surely it has a warranty?
I do a lot of trips with people who have campers of varying age and treatment. I would not expect to see rust like that for many years.
EG, our Jayco is 9 months old, has done ten trips, mostly off road, and no
sign of a mark. Jayco are not known to be a "premium" manufacturer.
My greatest concern is where you are getting rust....the corners of hatches, the plug holder, the "Treg" hitch etc. These are not areas of wear or abuse.
It looks to me like old components that had rust in them before they constucted and painted it. A visit to the manufacturer is due, and soon. How will it look in five years?
Jim.
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Reply By: Allan3198 - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 18:29
Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 18:29
I sold a camper some months ago now and are now looking at a larger unit. I also know a little about steel fabrication and if trailer was sprayed (or even powder coated) stones will remove it, no matter what !! Forget how many coats.
I just touched up stone damaged areas with a touch up can after each trip and it still looked good the day I sold it. Also, paint will not get into all the cracks and when
water does, you can get some rusty stains.
I sprayed fish oil in each crack each year and never had any rust issues.
If the literature states zinc annealed, or for that matter it is rusting under non-damaged paint, then I'd take trailer back for them to have a look.
Good luck with the new toy.
Al
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:09
Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:09
Al,
None of the shots show any
sign of stone damage.
What do you think could have caused the rust? You would know more than me about metal fabrication.
Jim.
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Follow Up By: Allan3198 - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 08:50
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 08:50
Hairy's response is quite accurate.
I would take it back and let them attend to it. If that is a hasstle then get some touch up paint and rub back with steel wool and give the area a couple of coats. A bit of fish oil and grease for studs and then enjoy the camper.
Al
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 10:27
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 10:27
G'day Al,
What size camper are you after now? We have a bloke in our club who has his Spirit Camper (off-road type with 6 stud
wheels etc) for sale. His kids have grown up and the 14 foot canvas section, which opens off to the driver's side, is now too big for him and missus. It hasn't done a lot of trips afaik.
He lives at Maitland SA (
Yorke Peninsula). Spirit campers are made here on YP as
well. Good tough units.
I have no interest in either the company or the camper this bloke is selling.
Cheers.
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 10:29
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 10:29
Here is the ad as it appeared in our club's newsletter:
FOR SALE
CAMPER TRAILER OFF ROAD, H/DUTY CANVAS WITH AWNING, KITCHEN,
WATER TANK, 2 SPARE
WHEELS, TOOL BOX, 3 JERRY CAN HOLDERS, ALL IN EXCELLENT CONDITION, $7,500ono PHONE 88322882ah.
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Reply By: Hairy - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 19:34
Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 19:34
Any edges where the sheet has been guiloteened will be bare and will rust,and welded areas will burn the zinc off, proper painting will cover it and stop rust if it has been painted properly. What your photos show are a lot of different circumstances, some I would say is not enough paint and some are where the paint has been removed because of wear and there is nothing you can do about it. A bit of grease on your wheel studs will stop that bit.
If your worried about it take it back to the manufacturer and see if they will give it another coat of paint but good luck.
Cheers
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Reply By: The Bigfella - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:27
Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:27
Mate, by the look of your photos I would be straight back with rust like that. I think it is a disgrace. I bought a new Corromal Camper last Christmas and have done about 6000 Kms with it so far and the quality of the finish is second to none. Yes. I paid premium price but I got what I wanted.
I had a
Camp-O-Matic for 6 years with a galvanised finish and took it a total of 60000kms over a six year period and not one rust mark when I sold it.
It looks like very poor workmanship to me.
Best of luck with whoever you bought it from
The Bigfella
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Reply By: MarkTheShark - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:43
Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:43
Dear Schilden,
I know how you feel. New camper trailer and it should be perfect.
I am going against the trend here but the photos (very good illustrations by the way) show rust which is superficial and not to be worried about. Get some
miles up and a bit of stone damage and you won't be bothered about those relatively monor bits any more. As mentioned by someone else, go and spend a few dollars on a can of fish oil spray. Hit the bits of rust with it and spray it down any hidden bits underneath. Spray a bit of WD40 or similar on the hinges. If you can, soak a small rag with the fish oil and using a wire push or pull it through difficult to get at tubes/ pipes etc. Any smell will go away in a couple of days and you will have effectively rust-proofed it. Repeat every couple of years.
My camper is more surface rust than paint now after many outback trips but is very sound.
I would only worry if the paint started to blister which might indicate that rust has been painted over. What you have there is about a 0.005 on a 10 point stress scale.
Relax,
Mark
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Reply By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 22:41
Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 22:41
Schliden
I am not sure if it bad enough to worry about - you may find in 12 months it has not got any worse. Also, sometimes red dust can look like rust, if you wash the trailer too
well rust will show. Use some CRC onthe various areas and see if it masks the rust. As mentioned above, the wheel nuts need grease or CRC and that will stop the rust also similar on the hinge with rust showing. The hinge is bare metal and will have rust signs if not protected. With the Treg, you need to ensure it is greased up - you should not have rust there, but it looks very dry to me.
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 07:04
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 07:04
Our 12 year old CT has less rust than that.........
I would take it back!
Cheers
Brian
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Reply By: Schliden - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 22:08
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 22:08
Thanks everyone for your advice.
I rang the dealer today and the manufacturer rang me back about 10 mins later.
He insisted on getting the camper back (he is going to pick it up from
Sydney and take it back to his factory in
Brisbane) to sort out the problem and is prepared to work around our planned trips.
For what its worth, he said that the points of weakness, rust wise anyway, are with "black steel" and the welds (which burn off the zinc) and that these are difficult to effectively rustproof.
I'll keep you posted.
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