Camper Trailer Seal
Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 13:34
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After researching the camper trailer scene for awhile I have decided to make one up from off road trailer & camper top, both new. Got trailer last week, seems ok,
well constructed, 6stud landcruiser hubs,new, plenty chequerplate., 5 leaf
HD shackle springs, wanted 7 but HD 5s are thicker leaves & should be ok. Only
glitch so far are jerrycan holders, full size will not fit as they come above sides
and interfere with top so will probably cut off & fit other storage option. Although
the huge space in a 7 by 4 with 5ocm sides will take some filling. Came with 15 by 7 new rims .Tyres not that flash treadwise so will probably run 16 in toyota splits
& two spares, will fit almost any tow vehicle if required as
well.
Enough waffle...what I need to know from your collected knowledge is what type
& form of seal do I require between the trailer & top (Marine ply)?. I planned to go to Clark Rubber & ask but would appreciate your input & experience.
Regards...Baz.
Reply By: Robbg - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 15:10
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 15:10
Baz, I have a
Tambo. The seal between the trailer and the ply base of the camper section appears to be a thin (5mm) piece of high density foam, but I'm not sure if it's been glued on or was actually off a roll with an adhesive on one side. All the best with it. Rob.
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Follow Up By: oldbaz - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 17:24
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 17:24
Hi Rob, thanks for the info, any dust problems?
Regards.. Baz.
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Follow Up By: Robbg - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 18:54
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 18:54
Baz, I've recently returned from travelling through
Cape York and outback Qld. We had dust problems (who doesn't). I don't think it got in through the seal that you're concerned about - it was mostly through the PVC top cover and rear tailgate. My camper section is not the flip up type on gas struts - it's bolted to the trailer. cheers. Rob.
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Follow Up By: oldbaz - Thursday, Aug 24, 2006 at 14:27
Thursday, Aug 24, 2006 at 14:27
Rob, my top arrived today, heavier than I anticipated. I dont think I will be happy with the hinges/latches supplied as I'm sure it will move around, but will try them & maybe solid fix later Sealing the tailgate will be another project, may try block
foam to intercept dust under pvc cover.
Regards..Baz.
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Reply By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 15:24
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 15:24
On
mine I have the self adhesive high density foam. Works OK.
Biggest thing to be aware of is how many attachment points does the camper have to the trailer. The more the merrier as you'll get a fair bit of movement between camper and trailer on corrugations, which will let the dust in. I've fitted extra latches over the years in a bid to make
mine more dust proof, with limited success.
5 leaf springs will be fine. 7 leaf wouild be far too firm and shake all your gear to pieces. Biggest problem with most camper trailers is
the springs are too heavy.
"huge space..."? Don't you believe it. Gaurantee you'll fill it no problems, and still be looking for more space ;-) Helps to have it full, actually, as it holds your gear in place. Stuff moves around too much in a half empty trailer.
If you already have the camper top, be careful changing rim sizes. The camper may no longer reach the ground..... Try to match your rims/tyres to your 4b.
Enjoy.....
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Follow Up By: oldbaz - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 17:22
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 17:22
Hi John, thanks for the tips. I'm not sure how many attach points as top hasnt arrived yet. I thought probably only 4. I may consider a permanent multipoint
fix as I cant see that I will require
the tip up side access very often. Your point re
the rim size & tent reaching ground is a good one & noted. I expect to tow with
rented vehicles on outback runs & thought that 16 splits will fit most with no offset
problems & if paired would get me to somewhere I could replace rubber if necessary.
Regards..Baz.
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Follow Up By: Brian B (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 22:30
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 22:30
Baz,
We have the self adhesive foam and it works
well.
I was just a bit confused when you say that you can't see that you will require
the tip up side access very often.
I might be off track here but we use this feature all the time to access our stuff when the camper is folded down. Sometimes we can open up the tailgate but our kitchen is hung off this area and you can't get right into the trailer. Once we are set up we can lift the ply floor under the bed if we have to although we don't find ourselves having to do this much once we are all established.
Just wanted to let you know a bit about how much we use this feature.
Have a good one.
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Follow Up By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 07:58
Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 07:58
Baz,
For the same reason as mentioned above about springs, I'd personally go for the lighest wheel/tyre combo you can get, preferably alloys, as this reduces the unsprung weight and improves the ride of the trailer.
Side access? Like Brian, I use that all the time. I have my top secured with "over centre" latches that are easy to release and are locked with a padlock while in transit.
After my last trip I'm going to fit a couple more latches on the hinge side as
well.
Another point about attaching the top. You'll have to get a couple of hinges welded onto the top/side of the trailer. I'd suggest getting a square bar welded full lenght, firmly secured at both ends, to mount the hinges. Same on the latch side.
Mine only has short reo bars to attach the hinges and this allows a lot of flex. Have had to have it rewelded 'cause flexing causes the side plate metal to crack where the reinforcing bar ends (hope that's clear ;-) Corrugations are fun, NOT. :-(((
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Follow Up By: oldbaz - Thursday, Aug 24, 2006 at 14:39
Thursday, Aug 24, 2006 at 14:39
Thanks Brian & John, my top arrived today & is heavier than I anticipated. I'm
not sure I'll be happy with the latch/hinge arrangement supplied as I suspect it will
move around more than I like, but I will try it & permanent fix if unhappy. I dont
feel the lack of side lift will be a concern as I intend to make up to 3 slide drawers,
& all taken will reside therein. My kitchen will be a slider as
well & not tailgate hung. I have access under bed if required. As a matter of interest, the manual states that the top should be lashed down in addition to the latches supplied, bit
of a worry!! Regards..Baz.
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Reply By: Grizzle - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 15:57
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 15:57
Try Rare Spares as
well, they have heaps of different types of seals
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Follow Up By: oldbaz - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 17:26
Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 17:26
Grizzle, thanks mate,all noted.
Regards..Baz.
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