Simpson Desert, which way?

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Hi all. I know this is probably like the Toyota/Nissan thing but was wondering about the pros and cons of doing the Simpson Desert West to East or East to West. Also the best options on tracks and or routes across.
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Alan
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:39

Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 10:39
WAA Line was my favourite and i have crossed via French and Rig also....
French was way too busy..,,,, and the Rig was great but the WAA a bit better...
I would actually suggest both but not the French...
Go over one way and come back the other..
You get to see a little of the French anyway
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 12:40

Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 12:40
I was out on the French line for 40klm going West and found it ok but when heading East on the Rig Rd was differnt story, the drift was making it hard going and a test of ones skill but enjoyed it,that was Easter this year , it would have changed again by now, the sands are always shifting, Go and enjoy a wonderful piece of Australia

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 13:19

Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 13:19
Alan,
You have asked a good question, a question that many people ask me about.

If you are a veteran Simpson traveller, most will always say an east/west crossing, for the fact that it is more of a challenge, due to the angle and height of the dunes.

For a first timer, I would suggest a west/ east trip, again easier approaches to the dunes from the west.

Having said that, the most important factor that many people overlook, including people that have travelled it a number of times is tyre pressure. As a general rule, the lower the pressure, the easier trip you will have over the desert. On an average year, with firm sand, a good starting point would be 18psi front and about 20psi at the rear. Earlier this season when the sand was very dry and soft, we were running 14psi front and 16psi rear. You will be surprised what a 2psi drop will do in terms of momentum through soft sand.

There are only 3 main ways over the desert, The Rig Road, the WAA Line and the French Line . The French Line is the most popular, but due to many people not driving correctly or not using the correct tyre pressure, is the most cut up. The WAA Line is very similar to the French Line, but has far less traffic, therefore you do not encounter the same problems as the French Line (I also personally like the WAA). The Rig Road was once clay capped, but over time, the clay capping has been badly eroded away, so care must be taken when approaching these dunes. The Rig Road is the easiest way, and also the longest way through the Simpson.

Once on the QAA Line, the dunes become taller and further spaced apart, but again driving correctly, are no problem.

Enjoy your trip and I know that you will travel it again in the future.

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Follow Up By: k1w1 - Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 17:49

Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 17:49
Thanks for that people. We will keep studying the maps and try to see as much as possible. We have a slow and steady attitude so look forward to the challenges.
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Alan
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 23:58

Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 23:58
Stephen
That saying West to East is right but not all the time, Back Easter this year with the prevailing winds it was easier to go East to West and the myth about the Rig Road East bound being an easy run was a bit like the Myth Busters and was BUSTED , It was very trying and the drift was enormous with up to 4 to 6 feet of drift over the clay cappings on some ridges,.

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (SA) - Thursday, Aug 24, 2006 at 09:01

Thursday, Aug 24, 2006 at 09:01
Hi Doug,
What you say is correct. We were out in the desert a few weeks after you this year on the start of my Simpson Geo Expedition. It was a double crossing as such, well at least one way east over the French Line, then returning via Geosurveys Hill and the Geographical Centre. This year was the driest that I have seen the Simpson in the last 12 years. Out near the Geocentre, there were some dunes with over 3m of new sand on top of the older dune, so it was a real challenge.

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Reply By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 20:36

Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 20:36
Having crossed the Simpson more than a dozen times over the last 25 years I usually suggest to friends that ask for the best route to travel west to east.
To get a good idea of the different types of conditions in the desert I also suggest they travel across to Purni from Dalhousie, turn down the rig road where it first parts from the French line to Mokari. Follow the rig road to Walkandi, turn north up to the Lone Gum, then continue north to the WAA line where you travel east until you hit the Knolls track. Travel north up the Knolls track to the French line where you turn east again to Poeppels. From Poeppels go up to the QAA and then across to Birdsville.
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Follow Up By: k1w1 - Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 20:58

Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 20:58
Thanks Peter. Is your recomendation based on where you live or approach the Simpson from i.e logistical or does it just seem a better trip , better views etc going that way.
Alan
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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 21:15

Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 21:15
It is based on the best way to see the widest variety of terrain/desert flora and fauna as well as the variety of travelling conditions. It also includes most of the highlights as well. It also is far more pleasant a trip than a slog straight across the French line.
you will use no more fuel than a straight french line crossing and probably take no longer although it is slightly further distance wise.
Allow 4 -5 days and you will really enjoy it.
My view is that you have driven thousands of k's to get there so take the time to enjoy it.
We are in Sydney and usually allow three weeks for the entire trip. Have done it in two but it isn't enough time, the harder you push the more probs you encounter.
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Reply By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 21:30

Wednesday, Aug 23, 2006 at 21:30
Other's can ell you witch is the best way to go and what tyre pressure's to use . What i will tell you is , keep a check on your pressure's as they will go up as you travel . We crossed west to east this year with 18 fount and 24 rear . Got stuck on a dune and when i checked the pressure's again was quite surprised to find the rear had gone up to 41 with heat build up . Lowered them down again and had no problems going over dune's after that . So , keep an eye on your tyre pressure's . Errol
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Reply By: Chaz - Thursday, Aug 24, 2006 at 02:59

Thursday, Aug 24, 2006 at 02:59
We did the whole French and QAA lines only a month ago and something that I found interesting was that travelling west to east, I noticed that on many of the dunes there was a sharp right turn just over the top and on the eastern side. That would mean that if you went east to west, you would have to turn right and left while going up the dune. This would have to make it easier going west to east.
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Follow Up By: k1w1 - Thursday, Aug 24, 2006 at 09:57

Thursday, Aug 24, 2006 at 09:57
Whole heartadly agree with taking the time to enjoy. We do keep an eye on tyre pressures and believe it certainly pays off. Both in terms of ease of traversing and tyre life.
Thanks everyone for the fedback. May see you out there one day.
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