Near Death Experience

Submitted: Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 00:32
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Evening Trendsetters:

Approx 3 weeks ago I headed off on a Melb, Berri, B/Hill, Innamincka, Wakers Crossing, K1, QAA, Birdsville, Marree, Flinders Ranges, Berri (Relos there) Melb.

Day 2 Charlton Vic – Next morning eating an orange before leaving, engine warming up, notice coolant p i s sing out.

Diagnosis – wire clip on bottom radiator hose at its maximum tension and leaking.

Solution: walked over the road and bought a Triton band clamp, fitted it – no more leaking.

Could have been a near death experience No 1 but by sheer a r s e wasn’t

Same day heading to Berri and suicidal bird of some description flies directly into the left hand corner of the bonnet area. BANG! feathers and C H I T everywhere and it all blows over the top. (Hope it hurt b a s t a r d)

Next pee stop notice that the little feathered mother had smashed the head light protector. First time ever in 25years of using such things.

Could have been near death experience No 2 (for the headlight) however wasn’t.

Should have been thinking of/looking for No 3 by this time.

Day 4 Broken Hill and environs. Taking SWMBO everywhere and anywhere whilst showing off my local area knowledge gained whilst working on the Outback Challenge (OBC)

About 4.30pm I exited a OBC competition site, aired up, and was contemplating camping in the area for the night when SWMBO indicated that Tibooburra would be better because she wanted to do some washing in the caravan park laundry.

Quick calculations – 330 odd K’s, yeah I can get there by 8.30 if I don’t d i c k around.

31.2 Km’s to the B/hillTibooburra road bring the Troopy up to cruise speed 110KPH mind in neutral, thumb up proverbial, dreaming how I was going to ‘attack’ Walkers Crossing when around a right bend I steer the Troopy into a 1.5 – 2.0m wash out. (had an inch of rain since May 06)

BANG does not get anywhere near describing it. All 3.5tonnes of it.

SWMBO screamed and used profane words ending up with ‘you have just given me a ‘hysterectomy’.

I kill the radio/CD , eyes glued to all gauges and ears listening for submarine type cracking noises - nothing.

Continue to Tibooburra thinking thank god it was a Troopy – anything else would be in a million pieces. Arrive 8.30pm, Laundry and late BBQ tea.

Day 5 Engine warming up , walking around having a quick look, and think – bugger – whats that oil leaking out of the front diff.

Open bonnet, look down and see nothing other than oil around the Yoke, and pinion area. Hmmmmmm must have stuffed a pinion seal in that little crash/bang yesterday. Quite a bit of oil on the ground drip, drip from the pinion/yoke exit. Hubs still locked must be spinning the oil up around diff pinion exit

Do I do anything else diagnostic wise at this point. NO! (Lesson No 4) Just unlock the hubs.

It was very apparent that this wasn’t going to be repaired in Tibooburra, so back to B/Hill. Arr 3.45pm Friday afternoon and nothing was going to happen repair wise until Monday Tuesday. So back to Melb for repairs and cont holiday somewhere else.

By the way the oil is still leaking – damn there is some oil in those diffs.

Get it to the work shop and tell them to do the 100,000km service including new swivel bearing kits in the front wheels etc etc etc timing belt, all oils, valve clearances – THE LOT.

Guess what? I crashed that vehicle so hard that the front end had flattened the rubber bump stops to ‘pancakes’ allowing the front diff to come up so far, that it snicked the return oil hose from the turbo into the sump – splitting it.

Yep it was engine oil, not diff oil.

Drove it for 1400kms peeing engine oil and still the low oil light didn’t come on.

Also the dude who did the swivel hub service alluded to bearing marks in the cups (funny about that).

$1,600 and it runs very nicely now (again)

Now that was a near death experience in more ways than one.

Lessons Learnt:

(1) Don’t listen to SWMBO camp at 4.00pm and no later
(2) Don’t do 110kph even if you do think you know the road. I’m afraid that I was bought up on gravel/dirt roads and always travelled them at speed, so no doubt I’ll get caught again. However I promise I’ll do my best to keep it down\n.
(3) Check the oil daily instead of every 3-4 days when travelling.
(4) See above
(5) Don’t be a lazy b a s t a r d – get down and underneath and have a proper look.
(6) Dip finger/s into leaking oil and have a smell (That would have told me in an instant what was going on)

Parting works from workshop owner/manager – Mate! You are just lucky it was a Troopy.

Yep! Have to agree with him. Just glad it wasn’t one of those ‘pussy nissans’ some people drive.
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Reply By: troopyman - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:54

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:54
Preaching to the converted my son .
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:19

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:19
Tsk, tsk, tsk........You'd better get used to that sort of stuff mate......It's sounds like any normal outing for us in the YP 4WD Club!!! So, with those recent experiences now under your belt, you should be partially ready for the forthcoming KI trip.

Of course, when you drive a (proper) Patrol (as opposed to a certain displacement size version which I won't mention now cos it might upset some sensitive types), you don't have to worry about splitting any turbo hoses or buggaring-up diffs etc......they are made to take that sort of thing in their stride!!! ;-))

I don't doubt the mechanic buttering you up by saying that BS about "lucky you were in a troopy etc etc"....he has a vested interest in selling you another one. Hell, if you've just had the 100,000 klm service done, that must mean you'll be looking at trading it in in a few months' time anyway!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:56

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:56
Can you please bring a membership application for the YP 4WD club with you as I now qualify for membership having demonstarted that I can take the rough stuff you experience in your normal days outings.

Tough entrance test, however I am glad that I passed, with 'flying colours' (well bangs anyway) so to speak.

KI here I come.
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Reply By: Willem - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:37

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:37
Hmmmmmmmmm....And here I was thinking that you might be a Mature Age sort of bloke.........

You crashed on to the bump stops because your Yota is no longer a vehicle but a motel on wheels....LOL

Take care Young Fella, it's a big world out there

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:51

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:51
G'day Willem.

Mate! I have self disciplined myself a zillion times over this mishap.

All the training and experience just went out the window and I can't explain why.

Just lucky I was in a machine that is very forgiving.

Also thanked the almighty for all the time, effort and money that I have put into the upgraded suspension, wheels and tyres.

Every little bit helped.

K
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Reply By: Des Lexic - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 09:32

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 09:32
G'day leader of the pack, what really happened is that you suffered the curse of the Lexic cos you didn't tell him you were in Berri and you probably had an invalid Visa. As you are probably aware, keeping up with the Jones' is not difficult but get the paperwork wrong and all hell breaks loose.

I did hear a rumour that a driver of one those "pussy nissans" had a new job and would be upgrading soon. Probably to a Bonz Benz or something.

So after the repairs were completed, did you get away again?

Cheers old fella.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 09:42

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 09:42
Ouch, is that another 100 Series diff? ...............
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:13

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:13
No more diffs around here John. did put a 79series through it's paces yesterday and it passed with flying colours. managed to get it airborne at the top of a very steep climb at the Morgan quarries.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:53

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:53
you quitting the 100? You going to a Troopy like 'Lucy'? That won't jump with the Shipshape on top, or if you do it will have a compressed bump stop like 'Lucy' did.
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:26

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:26
G'day john, it wasn't mine nor intended purchase. Just out having a play on a Sunday afternoon in the sun. LOL
Compressed bump stop won't be an issue either. Wasn't travelling at 110clicks but up a 60degree slope in 2nd low and we run out of track.
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:53

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:53
Des L

You were at some 4WD meeting and therefore not available.

By the way I took that 'short cut' from Berri to the B/Hill-Mildura hwy.

Should be termed 'long cut'.

Catch you next time.
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 18:24

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 18:24
Apology accepted and hopefully will catch up next time.
How could you turn the short cut into a long cut. It's almost a paved highway out there. Geez, only last week I told a bloke to take his boss in a Dunnydoor on that track. Might have to send out a search party for him.
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 18:35

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 18:35
Maaaaaaaate! its that tricky little direction switch-a-roo thingy at the border that nearly brought me undone. Road surface like a hotmix highway, no complaints there.

Just something Jonesy said the night before that saved us from continuing on oblivious until I hit Wentworth or Tim-buc-too or maybe even the old 'black stump'.

A quick paper map consultation sorted things out and thats another lesson I learnt - make sure you have all the maps you need, loaded into OziCE for the PDA before you take off.

Just didn't think I would need it (OzieCE - PDA) going from Berri to Broken Hill via the back road/s short cut.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 09:35

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 09:35
no comment.
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:59

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:59
Just as well
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Reply By: Robin - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:09

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:09
Hi Lucy

I think your post could be summarized to "My car has to little suspension travel for this kind of work"

Perhaps you should consider something with long travel coils all round.

Have no idea what their called though.

Robin Miller
GU 4800
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:51

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:51
"Sherman Tank" springs to mind! hahaha
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:58

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:58
Shutup Kadina Kid.

Robin.

I have been thinking of coilovers for some time on the front and I now see it happening in the near future when SWMBO is looking the other way.

ROACHIE and TRUCKSTER get back in your holes.
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Follow Up By: Robin - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 16:54

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 16:54
A seriously good idea they are Lucy

Have had so many instances of problems with troppies (traction only) due to those hard springs and short travel, causing car to be flogged.
They are usually first of main line cars to stop. Just as well they can take some hits.

Think my brother invented them (homemade), current set he has on much modded 60series has large screw thread above spring such that it can be set so more or less action can be taken by coil . Shocks are left seperate still.

Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 18:27

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 18:27
Robin and Lucy, (Lucy in particular) Whats all this Girly talk about extra length of travel. Shouldn't you be in the kitchen swapping recipes.
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 19:09

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 19:09
Thats where should be instead of casting 'asperations' on Mrs Al's good character.

Ooooooh! Des I am glad I am not you mate. She is going to get you for that one.

Nudie! Nudie! - Yep she is going to do you big time.
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:12

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:12
You should be a Journo, loved that insight and lessons learn't, sounded like it could have been a lot more scary than $1600. The legendary Troopy lives on..! Oh what a feeling..
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Reply By: Member - Ivan H (NSW) - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:34

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:34
I'll probably get shot down for this being a new member and all...but from the sounds of your story; You knowingly splattered oil over 1600km's of road/track. No doubt some of it on a sealed road around a bend which would cause some unknowing driver to understeer off the face of a cliff or into a tree.

Don't tow trucks exist anymore?
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Follow Up By: old mate - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 14:07

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 14:07
or could be worse, a motorbike hitting the oil, especially on a bend!
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 14:09

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 14:09
G'day Ivan,

I don't think he knew he was dropping oil all over the road. Also, given that he drove from Broken Hill to Melbourne in a vehicle that holds about 10 litres of engine oil, and still had "some" oil in it's belly (presumably, anyway) when he arrived, I would think that the 5 odd litres of oil he "lost" along the way, spread over a couple of thousand klicks, is probably not gunna cause anyone to spear off the road.

Just my thoughts on the situation........

Cheers mate

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:45

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:45
Ivan & Old Mate - not a truer word said except that I wasn't aware that it was engine oil.

Mis-diagnosed it as Diff oil on a very slow drip.

Yes! that was very remiss of me and I have self slapped myself numerous times around the ears re same and will not make the same mistake twice.

As for Towing - well, if I had just $1 for every vehicle in Australia with an oil leak that by your definition should be towed etc. I would be an instant millionaire.

And I won't do it again 'mum' - promise.

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Follow Up By: Member - Ivan H (NSW) - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 16:04

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 16:04
I'm anal about this as I've been stung by someone elses oil patch.
I was cruising around a corner in the city when the front end slid out from under me, so I put my foot down to try and power slide out of it and that only made matters worse (was only on my P's and still learning how to drive) I ended up spinning out missing an on-comming cop by a metre or so.
Neg driving (not in control of vehicle), 5 points and $400 later, 3 months without a license and a massive increase in my insurance premiums.

You are dead set right about how many leaky cars there are out there. Although I think its our job as car/4wd enthusiasts to set a good example for the rest of the public.
I realise we all make mistakes (I know I've made plenty); I'm glad you've learnt from it.

Ivan
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 19:43

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 19:43
So when’s the XR6 getting a front diff and suspension lift LOL

But nice car mate, I am contemplating a XR8 My-self, it will be hard stepping from a 4By back into a road car but I think it is something I will just have to do LOL

Lucy, it never would of happend in a Jeep LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Ivan H (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 09:38

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 09:38
lol
I laugh cause I know someone who has done it...but for all the wrong reasons :)

I've had 2 XR6T's now, and have had really bad experiences with both of them. So you won't get a recommendation from me...
I'm looking to step up to a new car soon, might be a 4by (Pathy, Toureg) might be a sedan (Passat), just need to make up my mind on how scared I am driving a 4by after for so long having cars with low centres of gravity.
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Reply By: Troop-a-dour - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 13:42

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 13:42
I assume your Troopy is a 4.2 turbo??
What fuel consumption do you get - in different conditions eg around town, hwy cruisin etc.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:52

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 15:52
fuel economy while flying or driving?
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 16:01

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 16:01
That will cost you one beer Truckie at the next beer and pizza night..

I'll answer that question later Troop-a-dour as I have to put a bit of info together re same.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 16:03

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 16:03
Ive asked Ads to put up a date fora Stamford night.

maybe you could do it...
next friday? not this oen but following..
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 17:46

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 17:46
Lucy,

In the words of that very old TV commercial "Why didn't you call?" If you had you could have used my laundry and saved a couple of bucks in the CV park at Tib, not to mention a certain amount of grief.

Second if haveing gone on to Tib and had the prob, if you had called on the way back I could have recommended a mechanic who just may have been able to fix it for you on Monday morning. In the meantime we could have shown you some of the sites.

Oh well maybe next time. I'm here (in Broken Hill) and I am willing to help.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 18:42

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 18:42
Duncs.

I have worked the last two OBC's with Bonz and Crazie and Al this year.

Both times I have been invited to accompany them to your place of employment to meet you.

Both times I have declined because of mega c r a p to do re the OBC and now I am paying the price for it.

I will be back there in May for the OBC 07 and this time I will have very little setting up to do I can assure you and therefore when you leave those three hooligans in charge of your workplace with instructions to 'make themselves at home', I'll be there to supervise after having met your goodself.

Thanks for the offer and I promise to be more social when in BH next.

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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 18:46

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 18:46
Hell I have made some outstanding promises here to improve myself 4WD self in future.

Thank my lucky stars I am not a Religious because I would be saying quite a few 'hail 4WD's' and bathing in holy radiator coolant as added penance.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 22:01

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 22:01
dont worry, its only a yota, nothing to worry about. dime a dozen...
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 14:10

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 14:10
Bruce, he says he is committed to improve himself. I think I hear a TD4.2I coming.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 16:07

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 16:07
In that case he should call Eric right away.. :D
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 17:09

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 17:09
We have obviously hit on the plan Bruce. you or I better supply Eric's number to him.
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 18:27

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 18:27
JohnR, from that diatribe above it is obvious to one and all that you have been conducting 'relations' to closely with your Bovine Partners and caught a savage case of Mad Cow Disease.

Tructster, you should have been aware that MCD is a highly conatgious disease and kept your distance from JohnR.

However, if you keep Eric's number a secret and purge your sins by getting him to source your good selves a Heaven made 100S each, I'm sure you will be cured of expousing verbal Diaorrea like you currently are.

Pair of Nissan driving fairies
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 21:04

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 21:04
I have a pilots license... do u? :p
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 22:00

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 22:00
Bruce, is that sky pilot? That may help the ir-religious Lucy. I am sure you have not been eating my brain or spinal column, so you should be safe from mad cow disease. Not that I have it, just mad cows. LOL

Eric was looking for some other car for me........ to add to the Nissan fleet here

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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 22:46

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 22:46
Nup! only a 007 licence - will that suffice

and

21.9.06 is looking at this stage as the first dooable Stamford date.

Whats your thoughts on that.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Wednesday, Aug 30, 2006 at 00:16

Wednesday, Aug 30, 2006 at 00:16
hoo you talking to?
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Wednesday, Aug 30, 2006 at 00:25

Wednesday, Aug 30, 2006 at 00:25
The self annointed 'sky-pilot' - who else.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Wednesday, Aug 30, 2006 at 07:23

Wednesday, Aug 30, 2006 at 07:23
ahhhhh, so you aren't talking with me, just as well. Take that!!!!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 30, 2006 at 11:29

Wednesday, Aug 30, 2006 at 11:29
put it up then dude.
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Sep 25, 2006 at 22:54

Monday, Sep 25, 2006 at 22:54
hahahahaha the things one misses when on leave

did I mention hahahahahaha

oh and hahahahahehhehahahahehehehehah - burp hehehehe

Lucky you were in a troopy the Nissan would have ridden thru it like a Rolls Royce rofl never forget that day we had it airborne just north of Eldee hahahaha

did I mention hahahahahahahahahahahah

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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 00:08

Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 00:08
The Eldee experience was nothing compared to the Poolamacca August 06 one.

SWMBO kept screaming that I had given her an instant hysterectomy.

The deathly quiet thereafter was the unnerving bit - like the calm before the storm.

Any way moving on (what else can you do) I refitted the water tank on the weekend after getting it repaired ( ruptured seam from above 'experience) and noticed something shiny up the top of the right poly-air bellows.

On close inspection I established that on the compression stroke of the aforementioned 'experience' the Troopy had gone down so far that the bellows had folded up and down around the top and bottom mounting plates to such an extent, that the bellows had folded the subject mounting plates around the mounting brackets whilst at the same time compressing the mounting brackets flat, both top and bottom.

If and when it has to come out it will be an angle grinder job.

That poly-air bag is still inflated with no loss of presure.

I have taken pics and will post later on it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 08:27

Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 08:27
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

what Bonz said hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

lolololololol

it just keeps getting better. I bet there's a road crew up there north of the 'Hill, wondering where the meteorite came from and went to that caused the huge divot in the track. hahahahahahahahaha
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