2007 Toyota Tundra

piece of crap

piece of unrefined crap

Not even 4wd.

Semi for "civvies"

Not that much different to the Hummer for hairdressers...

Still leaves the question, WHY? To pick up a quart of milk from the corner store? To drop the kids at soccer???? WHY???????????????????????????????

They come in many options including various configuration of 4x4 and are far better than anything available here. The most annoying part is the pricing in US:
$16,155 – $33,575, and you could probably do better with a bit of haggling. If they ever get here we could probably multiply the above by 4...
Cheers

I saw one of those in Colorado the other day and didn't know what the hell it was. I would never own one but it was pretty impressive driving past.

Ando

"...but it was pretty impressive driving past...."

especially the artificial sunset for half an hour at 2.00pm LOL

Yeah, it was a bit like that.

How many people need to tow anything that weighs 4.5 ton?? (three average sized cars) And with a combined weight of in excess of 8 ton should they be driving it on a normal licence anyway (no additional licence needed in US for these vehicles). I really don't undersytand the mentality of people that buy these things as runabouts/trophy vehicles............

Probably only horsey people would need it Gary... And I am all for the introduction of licensing to tow everything from the garden 6x4 upward...

Blue
Yeh nice Pickup but It amazes me just how many people see these things and then say like GaryInOz that everyone is going to use it as a runabout, but thats the city attitude I guess and how city people think , to them there is no country and there is no people who two 2/3/4 horses in a float , nah i guess they could do it with the Falcon , and the same bloke would tow his 25 ft loaded Caravan with his Commodore, So horses for courses ,and when you think about it Blue 4.5 tonnes is not hard to exceed ...not if you got a wife ...my van is a 20ft and with all my stuff in it i bet its going about 2t plus the cruiser goes 3 tonne when full of fuel, but I don't need a larger vehicle for what I do ,

Doug

Why have more classes of licenses???? To give those bludgers in the government more money?? Those pricks get enough now.

Marn, mate I've seen too many knob ends do too much damage to themselves and others trying to tow a 6x4 trailer... Almost lost count of how many times I've ordered idiots out of their cars so I can back their trailer in/out/around and stop them doing more damage... Too many seem to fail to remember their car is now 4 or 5m longer when changing lanes, cornering, trying to negotiate McD's drive through... I could go on all day about the stupid things I've seen people do with trailers on cars... In the Army we had to pass a test before we could tow a trailer, valuable skills learnt there and it should be the same in civi life.

OK, stepping down from soapbox now...

Yeah Isee your point in the training side of things but you know as well as i do that the government wont introduce these things without fees. You want to drive a car- $30 please. You want to drive a 4WD- Another $30 please. You want to tow a trailer- another $30 please.You want to tow a caravan-Another $30 please...........$600 a year + insurance is enough for me anyway....:)

Marn, I totally agree with the additional licences, the thing wouldd be to actually have to do a decent amount of prac/theory before it is issued(similar to motor bike/light truck). It would be pointless issuing licences like recreational fishing licences where "ya pays ya money, ya gets ya ticket".

Benefits??? Say goodnight to "Mums taxi", "trophy" vehicles, and ppl that haven't got a clue how to drive them in the first place. If you are driving something that weighs in at almost the same as an unladen medium truck, with the same sort of handling and CofG issues, then why shouldn't you need a special licence to drive them????

Practical upshot??? Less ppl in 4WD's having accidents (deaths and injuries) and possibly less insurance cost per year (no more Coles carpark fender benders by "Mum's taxi").

So which would you prefer, an extra $200-400 for the extra lessons and driving test once, or an extra $??? EVERY YEAR on your insurance? That pretty much is how the situation is at the moment.

I am talking more about the extreme amount of money that the RTA enjoys taking off you every year.

Hell yeah...

It'll break down on both sides of the road..............

You obviously never made it to the Californian sierras. There's plenty of off roading there, especially over gnarly granite boulder country. And plenty of enthusiasts with serious off road machines.

Smart arse. Re-read what I said. There are tracks in the high country, I know that.

I read what you said.

No need for that. Was merely adding comment from experience as there is plenty of gravel roads and was not intended to stir.

OK

I like the look of the new Hilux too , much nicer than the old one. and the Tundra looks absolutly fabulous, , but yeh a lot of the others here on the Forum have got their heads stuck in the sand and want to stay in the Ford Maverick,Suzuki X90 and Rocsta era and see every thing else as not worthy of a mention , just have a look at some of the childish remarks and it makes one wonder.

Doug