FuelMate - Anyone used one?

This oughta be good.

hmmm sounds like an advert Max! Do you own the Co.?
Leroy

So if I use one of these, together with a Hyclone, Fitch and a Fuelstar, I can get as many km,s on just about no fuel at all.

Its gotta be a winner.

Hi Max

Go down street , get short length of 8mm fuel line, go to dick smith
buy some solder. Cut to length and feed into fuel line.

Splice section of fuel line into existing.
Just before inline filter so that it can't move down fuel line.

It will give you a better and more direct Tin catalyst effect.

It will still do nothing , but this way you can make your own
assumptions about its performance, and it won't cost much.

Robin Miller

Tried all these once, problem was after a few hundred k's the main fuel tank overflowed !!

Ken

Ha ha ha only 10-25% ,fuelmate Max you are going to have to spin a better yarn than that to pull the wool over the boys in ExplorOz.

Well, I should have done my online research FIRST!

I note that 99% of all recommendations are by the mobs that sell these things (even bandying Sir Jack Brabham as supportive!), that none of the makers of these things post any sort of proper controlled tests on their sites, and that I was totally unable to find anything myself that could support the claims made.

Sorry if I wasted everyones time with this - but, hey, maybe you had a good chuckle!

Think I'll have to nominate myself as:

MAX THE MUG !

I congratulate those with the guts to raise a subject like the Fuel Mate, Fitch, Hiclone, etc fearless of being debunked by obvious experts in the field.

Those sceptics that offer their expert opinion regarding the claims of these devices obviously possess a wealth of statistical data to back up their rationle that they don't work.

I have no financial interest in anything but perhaps you could approach these subjects in a more objective manner and open mind.

I fiitted 2 Hiclones...read the bad press about them, had second thoughts..took them out to test the theory..then put them right back in again when, over a period of weeks there was a NOTICABLE drop in bottom end torque and incrrease in fuel consumption .

I have spoken to the distributor of Fitch..when someone offers a 120% refund well you need to give it a second thought. I'm still thinking about it though.

I guess as there are no moving parts or it may be a "little out there" as far as technology goes, we seem to critise it.

If you don't agree, aven't tried one, don't want one, use one and don't want to provide any positive feedback then please..we've heard enough negativity...but give Max and other posters a go...

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Max,

At least you have a great sense of humour anyway.

Good to absorb the replies, even if there were no positive ones:-)

Hey Max!
You could buy a pushbike for about the same price as a fuel catalyst and leave your car at home. This will give you a much better increase in fuel economy.
Cheers
Andrew

Holden have just spent $1 Billion plus developing a new Commode and in the days after release they got hammered because the car uses 1 or 2% more fuel than the last model (well it is about 100kg heavier!).

Given the amount of development dollars expended and the intensity of the competition with Ford's Falcon, especially over fuel consumption, I would think that any sort of technology claimed by these aftermarket fuel saving device purveyors would have been well and truly picked over by the Holdens and Fords of this world and if they really produced savings of 10 to 25% (or even 2%) they would have been incorporated as standard equipment on production vehicles many moons ago!

Car companies spend millions of dollars chasing 0.1 litre/100km increments in fuel economy with tools such as wind tunnels and computer aided design. Engines are subjected to hundreds of thousands of hours of bench tests and refining to extract power and economy.

And then some bloke comes along with a u-beaut catalyst product that costs ONLY a couple of hundred dollars or some additive that costs ONLY $5 a tablet or bottle or something and tells me I can save 1 or 2 or even 3 LITRES/100km.

What have the car companies been doing wrong all these years building motors that guzzle 25% more fuel than they need to? Have they been getting paybacks from Big Oil Ltd all these years to "keep the big secret"? I think not. Have they been ignoring the competitive advanntages over rivals gained from selling cars that use less fuel? Gimme a break!

There will always be people on the fringes trading on the uninformed impulsive consumer with crappy products. They are like hyenas following the herds in Africa waiting for the weak prey to lag behind!

My advice is simple - always look objectively at claims made by the purveyors of such devices and ask yourself "If the savings are so good why aren't these things standard on production vehicles?". Any my old favourite - "If it sounds too good to be true then it is probably a load of horses poop"

Buyer beware.

Cheers
Muddy

I understand that a modern engine - petrol and diesel - will efficiently burn all but about 0.5% of the fuel (and this tiny remainder is dealt with by the catalytic converter in the exhaust line). So I guess the question really is: how can any device/additive/magic spell increase fuel economy at all, beyound this 0.5%?

Perhaps these snake oil marketers rely on our knowledge that engines certainly can be tweaked in many ways to output more ***power***. However, these all rely on being able to either push more air and fuel in, &/or get the exhaust out faster. But of course this doesn't increase fuel economy, it decreases it.

Possibly the only power enhancement that doesn't increase fuel consumption is in cooling the air coming in, but I'm guessing here...

Easy to see though, how we (me!) make an unconcious leap from "more power" to "better fuel consumption", despite this being totally incorrect. No wonder these gizmos keep selling, and the uninformed keep buying them.

Hey, this has been a fun thread, and I certainly have learnt a bundle!

Cheers, Max

Does anyone have a Peter Brock black box available too ??

Bill S isn't allowed to play in this area anymore.

At a guess, I think he even tried to register under another name recently and was caught...

Someone by the name of Djeep(Qld) was cleaned off this thread for having a frew too many mentions of the "F" word (product!!!!, people) in the one paragraph.