Dogs and Permits

Submitted: Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 12:04
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Hi All,
New to this site, Very useful,
Done a search and cant seem to find anything. Has anyone taken their Dog on any trips. I'm not sure if its allowed in the national parks etc. Please any info would be great. Also where is the best place to obtain permits, planning on going around Oz trip, up WA coast, kimberleys, across to cape york, then head back
Any info would be great.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Phantom (WA) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 12:14

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 12:14
Hi Shaynem,
I think you will find that as a general rule, dogs are not permitted in any National Park throughout Oz, and permits would not be available to allow it.
There is a good book available from the Shop on this site called Bush Camping with Dogs.
Good luck with pooch.
Steve
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 16:34

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 16:34
Ah, you would be Mr Hopper*

(* for the host who hops)

Cheers

Pete
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Reply By: Hairy - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 12:39

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 12:39
In the Nt dogs are allowed in parks unless sign posted. The catch is they are nearly all sign posted! I did ask a ranger years ago about permits and he told me he has only ever issued one! and that was very odd cicumstances.
Id leave them at home these days.
Cheers
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Reply By: ro-dah-o (WA) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 12:43

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 12:43
Shaynem

I too have the same issues. Having too fury family members makes travel that little more difficult.

As far a s WA parks and the likes, check out the DEC's page e good info on where you can an not take pets in WA parks.

Also, be aware that the RSPCA is cracking down on dogs in vehicles at the moment due to some changes in legislation etc. You now have to ensure that your animals are 'suitably restrained'.

Good luck, and I hope you (and your pooch) enjoy the trip
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Follow Up By: ro-dah-o (WA) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 12:44

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 12:44
hmmmm, link did not work,

try www.naturebase.net/
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Reply By: Shaynem - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 13:26

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 13:26
Thanks for the replys, think the old pooch may need to stay at home...!
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 13:39

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 13:39
I have two dogs who are my mates. I'd never take them on a trip, too many things can go wrong, including the wide spread useage of poisen baits on some properties.
I know some do take their pooch, but I leave the dog and missus at home :))
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 14:36

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 14:36
Our dog goes with wherever we go. As a rule I avoid National Parks. But sometimes one has to travel through parks and conservation zones in the outback. No use asking for permits for dogs, just a waste of time. I just do it and have not been pulled up yet. Too many rules and regulations in my opinion.

For trip planning around Oz go to Trip PLanning in the Blue Button at the top of the page and go from there. This is the best site ever for travel info
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 14:50

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 14:50
Agreed.
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Reply By: Shaker - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 14:53

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 14:53
A lot of people including us, take their dogs with them all over Australia.
Obviously common sense is necessary & as far we are concerned there is plenty to see excluding National Parks, these generally attract more people and are quite busy, which doesn't appeal to us.
Yes, baits can be a worry, but your dog should be restrained in these areas anyway as quite often they are on private property, stations etc.
We enjoy our dog's company & are more than prepared to make the few sacrifices to have him along with us on our trips.
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Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 15:06

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 15:06
Hi Shaynem

Don't know if this still applies in Qld still but you used to be able to travel through the National Parks with dogs, so long as you didn't stop.
The camping with dogs book as mentioned is suppose to be a good guide.

Although it was hard I choose to leave our dog at home only because of various possibilities that can go wrong, ticks, baits, snake bite, might get hit by a car and etc.
Yes, I know we all look after our pets (probably better then we look after ourselves) but it takes just one moments distraction for a possible tragedy to happen.
She would always come with us when we went to Straddie though, there she was safe.

Cya
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 17:27

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 17:27
I guess they would be good enough reasons to leave kids at home too .... lol
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Reply By: Ford Rodeo - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 16:27

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 16:27
Shaynem, I've travelled for at least 2 months per year for many years with my 2 furry children. Never really had that much trouble that I would ever consider leaving them at home.(missus would'nt let me anyway!)
N.T, North W.A and Cape York wont be a problem, just some of the more populated parks that might cause drama. Stay away from camping in National Parks. There's plenty of State and other parks about. Common sense is the key.
There is always dog friendly sites wherever you go.

Phill
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Reply By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 16:40

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 16:40
If you do take pooch with you and you want to visit a NP - say Kakadu - you could always park said pooch in a kennel for a few days. There are lots of good ones around and plenty of locals on here who could give you advice as to the best kennel in a given area.

Pete
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Reply By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 17:05

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 17:05
Also make sure the pooch's C5 vaccination and heart worm injections are up to date. As you move around pooch may meet some nasties not previously encountered. When working for the RSPCA I saw several dogs that succumbed to parvo in an area that was supposedly free of the disease. Not a pleasant experience. Anyone who has seen parvo will not forget it, or the smell!

Pete
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Follow Up By: Ford Rodeo - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 23:30

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 23:30
Pete, Was wondering if you could tell me if C5 covers parvo? Or is it a heartworm thing?

Phill
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 14:21

Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 14:21
C5 Covers parvo. The heartworm injection is seperate.

Pete
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Follow Up By: blown4by - Monday, Sep 11, 2006 at 20:49

Monday, Sep 11, 2006 at 20:49
My understanding, from my Vet, is that if you haven't treated your dog for heartworm from when it was a pup then you can't just "give it a heartworm injection" because if it already has heartworm the injection will kill it. I agree, there are plenty of places to visit outside the National Parks and in WA you can't even enter one even if you have a dog in the vehicle which even though I am a dog person myself you can sort of understand because some richard craniums would let the dogs out once in the park and out of site of the Ranger. If you are on a public road that goes "through" a park as opposed to one that is the same road in and out as they mostly are then I don't see how they can legally prevent you from travelling on the road if you are just going through from one place to another without actually deviating to see places of interest within the park. I know that is the case at Ningaloo Reef where if you are travelling from Exmouth to Coral Bay via Yardie Creek you are allowed to take your dog past the Ranger checkpoint (where they fleece you for the pleasure) as long as you are not deviating off the main bitumen road. Also though you need prior permission from the owners of the various Stations you travel through. Also if you are heading that way, there is a guy at the Exmouth Shire Council that will let you leave your dog/s at the Pound (sounds horrible eh?) for the day in a separate area (away from the real crims) so you can head off to the National Park snorkelling areas etc and the cost last year was $10 per mutt. It has shade, water, trees and green lawn. It is a pity more councils weren't so understanding. As far as poison baits and getting hit by another car goes that is always a danger and it is just up to the owners to take whatever precautions necessary to prevent that occurence and if that means being kept on a lead then so be it. Many of the caravan parks have "pooch-park" sections where all the dog owners are are allocated bays together and in my experience nearly all without exception were very responsible owners and nice people as well and if you want to talk to other travellers at least you have something in common to start the conversation. That didn't surprise me I might add because I have this theory that irresponsible dog owners don't take their dogs away with them and by that I don't mean if you leave them home you are being irresponsible. It's just that the minority that are irresponsible are also usually too selfish to put themselves out to the extent required to look after their animals on a holiday so it's easier for them to leave them at home which is probably a good thing for their dogs and those that are prepared to take their dogs with them and abide by the rules.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 07:08

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 07:08
You are correct on heartworm, but no vet would treat a previously untreated dog without first testing for it. The test is quick and simple using a small blood sample.

Peter
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Reply By: S&N - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 18:58

Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 18:58
i think that if you ask the rangers, the roads through the parks dont actually belong to them. they are the propperty/responibility of the RTA etc.... so if you are ON the road way, they cant do a thing. I read somewhere about a guy who was travelling through one of these areas, where you cant camp. the ranger hassled him, he asked if the road way was theirs, he said no. the guy then asked how much of the land beside the road belonged to the RTA, and the ranger wasnt sure but guessed about 2-3 meters. so the camper moved his tent to within 2-3 meters of the road and told the ranger to push off!!! and he did!
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 22:54

Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 22:54
Shaynem, there's a couple of books on the issue. See
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