Added gas to my diesel turbo cruiser

Bill

Congrats. Had mine on a Patrol for about 5 months. Economy is there, but would not say exceptional. Think you just replace 20-25% diesel use with gas which is cheaper. Also with the power & torque I tend to use it.
Have you noticed any difference in quietness of motor at speed.

PK

Hi Bill,

Can I ask what $$$ you paid for your conversion and where you had it fitted??

Also did you sacrifice the rear tank and fit the gas tank under the rear???
I have heard on the 100 series that theycan fit a small diameter gas tank beside the chassis rails under the middle of the car.

I would be very interested on you fuel consumption figures when you have them available.

Regards,
Brett

Thats great Bill, I will keep my eye on this post & see if any body out there has fitted gas to a TD 80 series, will hopefully get it fitted to mine by the end of the year...
Rick....

Has anyone done a 3ltr turbo Hilux motor? Where do they put the gas tank in a dual cab?

I was sent a copy of an article about this subject through work recently.

Refrigerated Roadways have fitted this system to two f their trucks running Sydney to Brisbane. They are claiming 8.77c per kilometre saving over running on diesel alone. That is a big saving.

In addition they think they may be able to extedn the service interval and are claiming environmental savings as well (Euro 3 compliance).

I figured that on the Patrol my fuel figures were about 10% of the big truck so I should get about 10% of the saving. That would not be viable because it would take too long to recoup the savings.

Like others I will be interested to see any actual figures from a 4WD, particularly a 4.2 turbo diesel.

Watching with interest.

Duncs

Gday all

Love these threads, as I'm booked in at xmas for the conversion. I agree that it takes a long time to recoup the cash, but it will cost me under a grand in WA, as the state gov throws in a grand along with the fed's 2. I justify it in the following way:

Extra 250km range,

Hi

Surely the most important issue, and one that 4wders are often (unfairly?) accused of ignoring, is the impact of burning fossil fuels and the survival of civilisation as we know it.

See the www.dieselongas web site for more information and do a search on Ask Jeeves to get current info from the UK and Europe about the advantages of diesel / gas dual fuel.

The way I see it, with my limited scientific expertise, if diesel combustion efficiency is increased from about 80% to 95% by LPG fumigation and less of both types of fuel is burnt per kilometre, then fossil fuels usage and exhaust emissions must be lower per kilometre travelled.

Surely this is a win win situation for everyone?

When I get my ZD30 Patrol running of diesel / LPG dual fuel I may save a dollar or two with a bit of luck.

regards
Phil

Hello to you all, just to let you know there is a lot of miscommunication regarding the conversion of a Diesel engine to dual fuel Diesel LPG.

If you check my website, you will see what is possible. I personally drive a Prado 2003 model turbo diesel, and it was a battle to get it to work, however my colleagues managed to get it right, similar to the Hilux/Triton/Rodeo which all have common rail engines, and for the currrent Pajero which performs really well as does the 100 series Landcruiser.

we are achieving substitution rates of up to 60% in highway driving, with upto 50% increase in mid range torque.

To correct some basic facts, replacing diesel with LPG will not extend your range, basic chemical engineering etc will tell you that there is more energy in a kilogram of Diesel than there is in LPG, so a litre for litre substitution will yield less effort not more, ie less distance travelled. Also, a Diesel engine is very efficient, and claims of unburnt fuel combusting in the exhaust is rather scary - I do not want to behind a flamethrower - do you? imagine all of the smog!

You do need to replace a significant proportion of Diesel with LPG to get a decent result in terms of cost savings, which we can do, and our tests show that with the increased thermal efficiency (use of the combustion heat rather than quantity of fuel) only a small (say 5-8%) increase in volume of fuel results, which when offset against the price differential between diesel and LPG, results in a economic saving to the user.

Also, you do not want more power in the engine, one it results in increased fuel usage and secondly, LPG will increase engine temperatures, and as such, when under heavy load, you do not want LPG in the engine, thats how you get wear and damage. Our system actively monitors the boost pressure from the turbo to ensure we do not overfuel or overpower(overheat) the engine.

We do however give you more mid range torque, but do not increase the engine's power output.

we also have other products that complement our dual fuel system,

I hope this helps

Regards

Ben Hodgson
www.alternativeengine.com