4Terrain 4x4 Clutch for GU?

As my truck is a GU patrol 6x4 always overloaded for work i always fit a centre force clutch & have never had to replace one even in the 94 6 x 4 over 450,000klms since fitting one (they are a bit noisy you can here the bob weights in them spin in & out from time to time)

Moggs,

Please go back to your supplier and ask them to document EXACTLY what you get for your $1200.

I have been out of the brake & clutch game (ex Girlock) for many years and so am ready to be corrected by someone CURRENTLY IN THE INDUSTRY with current information, however until that happens I would suggest:

1) As would be expected for a four wheel drive of this age/mileage, one would be looking for a NEW Pressure Plate Assembly, not "reconditioned" or "re manufactured".

2) A new Driven Plate/Drive Plate/Clutch Plate, you only look at a rebuilt unit if you have the last existing example of something built in 1922.

3) A new thrust race.

4) A new spigot bush, yeah I know! Every Tom, Dick and Harry will now tell me that the spigot bush in their whizz-mobile is original after travelling four times around the world and twice up Mt. Kilimanjaro. After replacing everything else and paying the labour why would you skint on the cheapest bit of the job and risk having to drop the box & transfer case at sometime in the future when it could have been avoided.

5) A NEW FLY WHEEL! - - Why a new flywheel? At 92,000K's you are sure to have hot-spots on the flywheel. I don't believe an ethical workshop would offer a warranty on the job utilising the original flywheel. Evidence suggests that the original fluid damped flywheel can't be successfully machined. This then tells us we are looking at a genuine or after market unit.

I just can't see how your supplier can provide all of the above at the price quoted.

I am aware of an Exploroz Forumite who just had the same job done by his Nissan Dealer, the parts were actually non Nissan and an aftermarket solid flywheel utilised, he was quoted $1700 and was so amazed that he phoned and emailed all over Sydney to get check prices, then went back to his Nissan Dealer an additional two times, making three in total. After having the price again confirmed he booked it in and when delivering the vehicle the "normal man" was back from holidays, well! Didn't the poo fly! Screams! Protestations! Denials!, All to no avail because our member had the paperwork and quotation number.

I don't wish to sound like a wet blanket, (whilst acknowledging that that's exactly how I sound), however I must say that I would be so nervous about such a costing that I would walk away from it and start again.

As I stated right at the start of my post, I stand to be corrected but must again say that a price of $1200 for:

New Pressure Plate Assembly
New Drive Plate
New Thrust Race/Throw out Bearing
New Flywheel - Genuine or Aftermarket
New Spigot Bush
Labour to fit the above

Is just too good to be true, last time the Tooth Fairy came to my place it was to visit my youngest son, and at the end of that exercise it cost ME! No one else.

We are talking GU 3Litre I assume.

Ian

lets fit your clutch on your workshop day lol

Are you sure you need the clutch done? On what basis did they tell you that?? 92,000k is nothing much for the 4.2 clutch. By definition, every clutch is on its way out, but you may find that yours has another 100,000k left in it.

Moggs,

Don't know where or who told you 92K is normal for life of 4.2 clutch. Mine has 275K on it and still going, but it will be replaced when the gearbox comes out shortly for the dreaded spline shaft problems in the 2000 model I have. Others that I know have all got great k's out of their 4.2 clutches.
I understand all vehicles have their own circumstances and by no means am I trying to diagnose over the net so if your man says it needs doing then I am sure it does, but 92K is not high miles for that clutch IMO.

Regards, Trevor.

Moggs - if you haven't already seen it there is a bit of a write up on 4Terrain clutches (well in a roundabout sort of way) in the current edition of 4WD Monthly.

The 4Terrain clutch is manufactured by Clutch Industries (formerly PBR Clutch)
for information try www.ciperformance.com.au or call Clutch Industries on 1300 369 787.
They are available at Repco, Bursons, & plenty of other places.
The 4Terrain comes with a "No Fault" 12 month or 20,000km warranty, whereas many other 4WD "Heavy Duty" clutches are not covered by any warranty.
Also check out this month issue of 4WD Monthly. They fitted a 4Terrain kit to an 80 series Landcruiser, there is a full write-up on the 4Terrain clutch.
Would also strongly suggest to spend the extra few dollars & replace the fork & pivot ball, a small amount of wear in these can still cause big problems.

yeah it was all good. its about 6 or 7 pages worth of reading. goes through the clutch, but also other stuff too look out for when getting it replaced and all that. a few q & A's
comes in a good box too

Had the clutch replaced today with the 4Terrain kit. Feels very different - clutch engages as soon as the pedal is released.

All up cost was $1,374, included:

6 hours labour
rear crankshaft seal
rear crank seal gasket
spigot bearing
machining the flywheel
4Terrain clutc kit ($720)
exhaust gasket
exhaust flange gasket
gear stick rubber boot (old one was torn)
sealant
dowel flywheel

Old clutch was 3/4 worn apparantly. It would have lasted a bit longer but now at least I know it is good and won't have that nagging feeling in the back of my mind that it might go at some point.

I will be getting ATOC to do the TD42T power upgrade soon - so I would have had to get it done then anyway as they reckon the factory clutch is not up to the job after that is done.

I suppose it can be iewed as preventative maintenance LOL!

Certainly feels different to drive - although I was expecting the clutch pedal to be heavy - it still feels light. Will take a bit of getting used to.

Also, the gear box ratle that was always there is still present - now at slightly different idle levels to before. ATOC mentioned that this would be the case due to the heavier clutch plate centre. I had read elsewhere that a HD clutch can solve the dreaded gearbox rattle - but unfortunately not the case in this instance.

Looking forward to seeing how it goes offroad this weekend at Woods Point.