Vacuum sealing crovacing info

Submitted: Friday, Oct 06, 2006 at 19:42
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well we have just got our self a vacuum sealer so that we can crovac our own food when we go away but we are not sure what works well and what does not. I know that meat works well as we have had this from the butcher before but what else works.

so what have you crovaced and how long did it last?

Can you do veggies and pre paired meals, cooked food ect?

thanks for your help in advance
Jason
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Reply By: wazzaaaa - Friday, Oct 06, 2006 at 20:28

Friday, Oct 06, 2006 at 20:28
Hi Jason,
We only just bought one on ebay last month for the same reason we have wanted one for quite a while. Our only concern was having to use that brands bags only until we got this one that can use any plastic bag to seal things up to 30cm it is great. Friends of ours have been using theirs to seal everything from meat to fresh veggies and keeping them refrigerated while we had to keep ours frozen. Just arrived back after a 2 week trip and even lettuce was still fresh although we did not vacume seal it but just sealed it. Also got 100 specialized bags from a crowd in Sydney on ebay for $15 plus postage which was cheaper that the local shops.
Wazza
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Follow Up By: JJ - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 00:16

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 00:16
Wazza, could you pass on the brand of vacc-seal you have and approx costs? By 'any plastic bags can be used', surely freezer bags wouldn't be strong enough? And I thought only spicific 'plastic' bags are suitable for use with food stuffs.
Thanx
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Follow Up By: wazzaaaa - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:35

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:35
Hi jj,
This is like the one we bought on ebay for $82
Site Link they surggest using zip tie bags from supermarket but I have tried freezer bags and it seals them but I guess no where near as strong. We bought extra proper bags from this crowd who also sell the same type of machine
Site Link
The one we were going to buy from target was not as big and was a lot more expensive as well as only being able to use their bags which were very expensive.

Wazza

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Follow Up By: JJ - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 07:00

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 07:00
Thanx for that wazzaaa. Will keep an eye out.
Ideal for camping, but would be handy almost daily around the home as well, specially when certain fruits or vegies are going at realistic prices.
Was looking at 'Sunbeam' (own brand bags only) but near $200 in Goodguys, also another brand that used any bags but wasn't much cheaper. Wow, $82...bargain!
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Follow Up By: wazzaaaa - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 07:09

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 07:09
JJ,
I think we were lucky, have seen them go up to $100 since but it depends who wants one at the time, they seem to sell an awfull lot of them so waiting and watching was good for us. The exact price was $82.21 and in 2 days we had it.
Wazza
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Follow Up By: JAS095 - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 12:45

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 12:45
that is great to hear as that is the same one that I have picked up for $90 I am always a bit weary of stuff on e bay as I have got some cheap stuff that was crap as well but good to hear this one has worked out for you. The cheapest that I could find in the shops was $260 a sunbeam one that you had to get special bags for did not like that idea.
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Follow Up By: wazzaaaa - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 14:45

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 14:45
It does seem very good quality for under $100
Wazza
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Reply By: Member - Prickle (SA) - Friday, Oct 06, 2006 at 21:05

Friday, Oct 06, 2006 at 21:05
Jaso,
We have used this method 2x on 2 week trips.

Just been to Red Centre and did 9 meals. Some meat, mostly pre cooked stuff like stew type food, vege/rice etc included and worked fine.

The cook prepares it, puts in appropriate container to stack in Engle, freezes it, then empties it out of the container and vacs it.

Whilst it does thaw in the fridge, we were eating it over a week later.

I am sure the unit comes with some sort of guidelines too.

Hope this helps.
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Reply By: Grunt Oxn - Friday, Oct 06, 2006 at 23:45

Friday, Oct 06, 2006 at 23:45
I don't actually have one of these but I do buy meat vac sealed. I can say that it really helps with the usable life of green food too.
On a recent trip to the cape we had a heap of meat vac sealed and in the fridge, much to our disappointment the rough track caused the bones in the meat from different packets to rub resulting in a few packs being punctured(we ate well that night....hmmmm mmmmeeet). So our next trip to the Simpson we only had boneless meat and no problems. So I'll be sticking with boneless cuts or having them deboned from now on.

Just thought you might like to know
Cheers
Joe
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Follow Up By: kev.h - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 10:46

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 10:46
My Butcher will not do any meat with bones, not only for the puncture problem, it will not last as long either something to do with the marrow in the bones aparently its a place where bacteria can get a start as it contains air spaces
Regards Kev
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Reply By: Redeye - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:46

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:46
Hi,

Have had one for a couple of years. Great. We pre-cook stews, curried snags etc and freeze them before packing. Have packed meat, poultry etc all well.

Friend did peanuts. The uses are endless.

The unit I have is small and we take it with us when we go camping to

for fish or any other items we purchase on extended trips. It works well on the 300w 240V inverter.

There is a place at Caboolture that sells bags over the net.

One word of caution, stubby caps can ware a hole in the bag quickly. Either store separated or drink the beer quickly.

Redeye.
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Follow Up By: wazzaaaa - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:56

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 06:56
Hi Redeye,
for future reference could you pass on the web site of the bags at caboolture?
Wazza
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Follow Up By: Redeye - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 07:39

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 07:39
Apologies

Here is the URL

www.vacuseal.com.au/

I purchase directly as I live in the area.

Redeye
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Reply By: howie - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:08

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:08
had the sunbeam 550 for about 3 months and its great to seal your own curries/stews etc.(and chose your favourite snags)
also tried it on original packages. eg bag of shaved parmesan, used half, then sealed it in its original package.
sealed frozen steaks in freezer look like they were just sliced instead of having
freezer burns.
found that if you squash too many steaks into a bag and leave some air at the bottom, it cannot suck that bit out sometimes. a bit of seperation is required i think.

i have sealed a curry, unfrozen, despite the instructions saying to freeze things first. it doesn't seem to suck anything into the machine. err yet!

have fun
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:58

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 11:58
We have an Italian made ORVED. We buy the bags in lots of 100 for about $25-30 from the local butcher supplier.

Their recommendations are very conservative, I assume because of liability issues. We run the engel at 1 degree C. We store all cryovaced food in plastic containers so they never get damaged by moving around in the Engel.

With chicken, we only use breast, and use it within 1-2 weeks. Red meat, we're happy with 3-4 weeks. We also cryovac bacon, and some sliced meats, so they can be bought in bulk, and put into meal-size packs. Sausages can be done. The preprepared stroganoff or curry etc gets frozen, and then vacuum packed.

For veggies, we prepare pumpkin, vacuum it and it stores really well unrefrigerated for weeks. Do the same with cabbage/coleslaw. All other F&V gets wrapped in newspaper and stored in a cardboard box.

My wife makes a nice date and walnut loaf, so we freeze that, and then cryovac it.

We like the machine.
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Follow Up By: JAS095 - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 12:52

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 12:52
when you say that you prepare your pumpkin what are you doing? are you cooking it or just blanching it or is it just cut up raw before sealing?
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Oct 08, 2006 at 00:45

Sunday, Oct 08, 2006 at 00:45
We cut it up raw before sealing it. So when we use it, we can just cut open the packet and drop it into the camp oven.
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Reply By: Shaker - Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 18:53

Saturday, Oct 07, 2006 at 18:53
Try pre-packing spare sets of wheel bearings with grease ...... & vacuum sealing them. Makes it quick & easy if you have to replace them on a trip.
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Reply By: ellen m - Sunday, Oct 08, 2006 at 08:09

Sunday, Oct 08, 2006 at 08:09
Hi jason

we dont have one YET. Thats on the christmas list from the mother-in-law for my hunband. A friend had one in Karumba this year. We used it to pack some of our fish, other fish we packed in zip lock bags. The zip bags are showing freezer burn already (only 6 - 8 weeks) the vac packed stuff looks like it just stopped swimmin' Cant wait to get one to give a try...means we will have to go catch some more fish!
Thanks everyone for all the info.

Ellen
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