People never cease to amaze me

Probably had no problems. Not really a hard offroad trip last time I went. Don't think we used 4wd at all.

Yer I know Richard but could you of imagined the glee in me posting such a photo here. LOL

Ouch.

i guess the answer was no.

Hear hear !!!!!

Add to that .. "Got a snatch strap"? .. then go back to "well, here, you can borrow my shovel or buy my strap".

I have rendered two snatch straps useless in the past with no thought of those I was helping offering to replace it or fix me up for the damaged one. So .. "twice bitten, thrice shy".

Jack

Now - I have just read two or three REALLY GOOD pieces of advice. Yep stop and give the advice and let them do the WORK at THEIR EXPENSE and the lesson may start to get in!
Cheers- Mobi

Just another word of warning, if I may..............

You come across some bloke bogged in the sand and offer to assist him. He volunteers (or responds to your question), that he does have his own snatch strap. You suggest he connects the strap to his rig and you'll do the same to yours.

There are 2 potential problems with this scenario:

1). Some people do not know the difference between a snatch strap and a winch extension strap.......they look the same, so the dude that's bogged probably isn't too worried if he's got it wrong. You take off with a couple of meters of slack and promptly either break something or maybe bend your chassis. So, make sure what he offers-up IS a snatch strap and that it is in excellent condition.

2). For goodness sake, check how he has attached the strap to his car (assuming you've let him do it while you do the join to your rig)...... He may have attached it to a tie-down point or used a shackle (worse still, an unrated shackle). If something on his car lets go during the recovery, chances are that you'll wear the shackle/tie-down bracket etc when it lets go. No need to worry if that does happen though, cos you won't even feel a thing!! The bit will have passed through the back of your head before you've even realised something was amiss.

Definately agree, I did the attaching and put the bag over to take the whip out if it broke. As above didn't use it in the end.

unlikely ... senior AAMI guy told me that no motor vehicle insurance policy in Australia includes a stupidity clause.

Only reason his policy would be voided is because of the write-off which they would pay more than likely unless he was proven drunk.

Point taken, that meaning to be racist or over dramatising. If he had of been Greek he would of been Greek, or Italian, etc, just happened to of been from that neck of the woods, think he may of been from Turkey. But definitely a peanut or should that be a Turkey.

Arhhh, a Turkish Delight, very nice.

Duncan

My opinion is to try not to categorise people by their appearance on forums as it invites criticism and/or condemnation.

Cheers

Willem to be honost if this forum had editting functions I would of removed the refernece to ethnisity, as it is superfluous to the intent of the Post.

Us kiwi/australians don't mind though, we enjoy a good sheep joke

Duncan, don't worry mate, you're a good man

I was more concerned about the carist remarks made on this thread

They always pick on Toyota .LOL

Regards

Richard Kovac

Of Eastern Europe (but have shaved of my moustache) descent

Alf my mate had my camera, I said take some video and photos, when I downloaded all the photos not one photo of the incident was taken. The other guys may of taken some photos though.

Whilst others may think that you should have left them there, good on ya for doing the noble thing, biting your tongue and helping out someone in need.

You never know when will need a hand, no matter what vehicle you drive........Karma count +1.

Andrew

Eli Creek has claimed a lot of vehicles over time - and not just Eli. The whole of Fraser will eat the unwary 4WD.... About ten years ago a few of friends came with me and my wife on a trip to Fraser. I had a well modified Range Rover and the others were in a Nissan (Pathfinder?). I have driven very extensively on sand in all sorts of 4WDs, my friend in the Nissan still learning (remind me one day to tell you the story of how he got his 4WD pearched on top of a VW Beetle...). We come to Eli on the way back to camp when the tide was fairly well out and the banks a bit high. The RR just cruised down one side and up the other - no dramas no problems. The Nissan, due to its IFS and lower ground clearance, was advised to take a route near the tide, but "watch the waves and time it when a wave is receding..."

We all hopped out to watch - and I so very badly wish I had my camera out at the time... The driver (we wont name names, but his was Bradley ;) had a young lady with him from Denmark who he was trying to impress - so far with no luck. So he winds up his windows and without waiting for my all-clear signal, floors the gas pedal and bolts - right into the path of a big wave tumbling up the beach (you know the big wave at the end of a set - the 7th wave, king wave - call it what you like). The Nissan disappears in a wall of green-blue water and foam - and I look on with my jaw down on the sand. Wait wait wait, out he comes, motor roaring - - and he's made it!!

But....

The passenger door flies open and a ringing wet prospective girl friend jumps out, says something very load and noisy in Danish at Bradley, grabs her sun dress and pulls it off over her head and throws it at him. Not sure if that was quite *how* he wanted that to happen, but what the hell the end result is what counts I guess...

We all ran over to have a gander (not so much at her - she changed her mind about the dress when she realised she had an audience - she did not have much else on) - and looked on in disbelief as he opened up his door and CD's and other bits and pieces floated out on a wave of water.

By this time I was incoherent with laughter, lying on the sand - and so were the others. Even Bradley. And the now ex-prospective girl friend is trying very hard to keep a straight face - she sees the funny side, but is still mad at him...

And what did he do wrong??? Apart from not listening to me (as long as we have known each other he never has!) he left his sun-roof open..........!!!

/viz
PS - The young Danish lady did forgive Bradley - and warmed to him. They became an item for a while, but she had to go back to Denmark...

Toyota - bogged
Terracan - not bogged

Since when does the vehicle you drive determine how skilled you are at driving? Seems to me that you would need to be more of an expert to drive a Terracan than a Toyota off road.

Just my opinion, and I drive a Toyota and dig myself out LOL

Cheers
John

Aandy far from it, my intent was and still is not to ridicule or humiliate the individual, but to point out that the person had ventured out unprepared. I'm happy for their sake that we did turn around and hopefully he may of learnt something from it and next time be a bit more prepared.
Never professed to be an expert. Yep I'll be learning to the day I die.
My choice of vehicle is my choice, just as your's is for you. Vehicle choice was never in the equation.

Duncan : Good on you for helping someone out , some people are a bit touchy about your deception of event's.
He could of at least thanked you and your friends for saving them from a sticky situation.

Well done.

Thanks Jeff.
John agree with what you're saying regarding the Yota's capabilities. I know my capabilities or lack of them and also my vehicles.

Jiarna, you will not find any experienced off roaders driving a Terracan.

Andrew I suggest that you get out a bit more often. There are many experienced off road drivers now driving Terracans. Many of these guys have traded in their Patrols, cruisers, etc for what ever reason and now drive terracans. Or have Military, mining, and exploration backgrounds. When making such derogatory statements please back it up with facts or qualify the level of experience you refer to.

Yep......................and YOU failed....hahahahahaha

Why do you always state the bleeding obvious.

Tell me something I don't know. for a change

You've got a good memory Mick. Yep ended up doing 16,600k's all up. The trip across from Mt Augustas to Tom Price via Ashburton Downs was interesting with Kerry getting a bit upset because we were the only ones on the road and it was still fairly rough in places. Long and slow but no big deal.

Regards