Newby question on Trakshak
Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 09:54
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Member - michael H (NSW)
My first post on here and have normally found all the answers to most of my questions via a search or through the (almost) daily read of exploroz
forum -GREAT SITE-
Have just bought a 1997 model Trakshak & have a few questions for fellow owners I would like to ask.
1 If anyone has replaced the standard mattresses with thicker ones or have you added extra padding onto existing. I would like to replace them and get the highest mattresses that I can fit under the lid
2 Camper being nearly 10 years old I’m not sure when you open the lid past the 90 degree mark should it fold down all the way slowly or do I take the weight and lower into position because it seems a bit heavy, Thinking it may need new gas struts if so where to buy?
3 The lid has a plywood top in the center that has been painted (waterproofed) but not too
well, A bit of
water was found on the weekend under the main bed mattress and in the storage area below I’m considering fitting a flat sheet metal lid (I’m a roof plumber) to fully cover/waterproof ply and seal off. While searching archives I read something along the lines of the ply should breath to stop condensation under mattresses? I could drill some 10mm holes in the ply on the first bed if that helps.
4 Has anyone got plans/dimensions for the third bedroom Trakshak advised that they do not sell them separately and would like to get one made by someone local Sutherland Shire in
Sydney’s south NSW
Thanks in advance Michael H
Reply By: Des Lexic - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 10:11
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 10:11
Michael, you don't necessarily need a thicker mattress. We recently had a 125mm thick inner spring mattress made for our roof topper. Far betterthan a high density foam one. Cost about $400 made to size. It's reasonably firm and "hotel quality" whatever that means LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 11:43
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 11:43
"hotel quality".........means you can do "all sorts" of things on it and it will stay in shape for a long time.......the mattress that is......LOL LOL
Michael
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Reply By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 10:20
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 10:20
Hi Michael
we have a Trakshak about the same age, we've replaced one of the mattress' with a high density foam one, we got it cut to size so it fits the entire area, a bit of a squeeze but heaps better than the other, and quite a bit thicker. Not sure about putting the metal over the ply, we were told about the ply being able to breath as
well.
Does yours have a winch on it?, ours lowers with a winch part of the way, then when it's almost closed al gets on top to squash it all down, [one day this will be one of the kids' jobs]
we have the extra room, but not sure where it is, if you're prepared to wait a few days I can get the measurements for you...Al is
perth this week...
cheers
Lyn
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 10:46
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 10:46
Michael
We got our TrakShak in late 96, best thing we have ever bought for
camping.
Your questions; 1, While our mattress is still the original, it is in need of replacement, we carry an extra mattress which goes on the floor for our third child. It is 2.5" high density foam and is carried on top of our bed, the one above the trailer. It has not caused any problems. We have had all the bedding for 5 people for a winter
camp stored in there at the same time. We also carry extra shadecloth and a big 26'x 32' tarp closed up in the camper.
2, When opening the camper I allways catch and lower it to the horizontal. I know one of the gas struts on
mine is faulty but it is not a major drama. When packing up I simply let it fall into the closed position. The faster it falls the less canvas spues out and the easier it is to get it stowed away.
3. We used to carry the clear plastic windows under the mattress and often found moisture under the mattress. We took the plastic out and solved the problem. I think if you put a metal lid in place you may
well have the condensation problem.
Mine is due for repainting now. I intend to scrape the silastic out of the corners and repaint it with some Wattyl Solagard. I have a few litres leftover from a house painting job so it should look nice in a
heritage yellow or green.
4. Does yours have the press studs on the raised section that houses the ply? If it does and if yours is the midway then we may be able to help you out. The design of this little room has changed and the new one is heaps better. If you are getting one made get the new design which may require the addition of some velcro to the main TrakSHak canvass, but it would be worth it.
Send a member message and we can get in touch and discuss these and any other questions you have in more detail.
You have bought yourself and your family lots of good times
camping in the bush. Make the most of it. The Trak Shak is as tough as they come, it is simple and strong and easy to use enjoy ot the max.
Duncs
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Follow Up By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 14:28
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 14:28
Hi Duncs, Will message you as soon as I can.
Thanks Michael.
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Reply By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 13:44
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 13:44
Thanks guys, No winch on this model, I forgot about a mattress for third bed so I might just get 3 new mattresses they are about 65/75mm thick so I won’t push my luck about the height issue under the lid but I might just make them fit snugly – good idea Al & Mrs Al + measurements would be great - Thanks
As for the waterproofing of the lid I’m trying to wrap my head around the difference between sealing with paint and covering with metal - understand about it needing to breath might sit on this one for a bit longer, What are your thoughts about a cover made up to sit over the top of the trailer it’s mainly when the camper is sitting at home?? No more room in the garage until I finish some renovations on the house
Thanks again Michael
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Follow Up By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 14:56
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 14:56
Hi Michael
only prob with the mattress being thicker is that it's a bit of a tighter squeeze to close it all up. We left the kids mattress as is as they didn't require changing, but you know, us older folk with our creaky joints and bad backs require a bit more support, ours is actually about 2 inches short on the end but that's good as the ladder sits there with handles pointed down. We now carry the poles in the side tool box rather than under the mattress. Its a bit of an effort to make the bed, but it's much better than before...
cheers
Lyn
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 15:38
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 15:38
Michael ,
After I bought my Trak Shak , I ordered a fitted plastic tarp for it from TShak . It covers the entire thing ( from the Treg back ) and drops down the sides to half way up the wheel .
I was not prepared to leave
mine out in the weather and watch it fall apart .
Cheers ,
Willie .
PS . I have the std mattresses and I find the very comfy . If I got thicker ones , I would not be able to fit lots of "stuff" on them when I fold it up .
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Follow Up By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 15:40
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 15:40
Might re:measure mattresses and as suggested beef up the main one and leave the kids one the same thickness .
Thanks Michael
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Follow Up By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 15:52
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 15:52
Hi Willie, I rang trakshak last week enquiring about third room and they said to get some one up here to make one, I also wanted to replace gas struts and got the same answer so I might get one made up local similar to the one you described. Can I ask do you leave it on while travelling or just for storage?
Thanks Michael
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 16:37
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 16:37
Michael ,
You could not leave it on while you travelled . It would flap itself to pieces and it
certainly would be unnecessary anyway .
One thing I would do if I was you would be to buy a tarp that would run over the entire roof of the canvas for those times when you are stuck for a number of days in heavy rain . The canvas always seems to leak after an extended period otherwise . It doesn't take up much room and it's good insurance .
They are a great camper . I have taken
mine through some rough areas in the
Pilbara and over some really bad tracks in Rudall NP and it never looked like getting damaged .
Willie .
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Reply By: Member - Jezza (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 15:57
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 15:57
Hi Michael,
I too brought a second-hand 1996 Trak Shak a little while ago. It had the original mattresses that needed replacing - after a bit of research we decide to go with Coleman self inflating mattresses, from memory they are about 80mm thick. They have the advantage of being able to be compressed, have a plastic/PVC? base to help protect against condensation, and are just the right dimensions to allow the steel pole/frames to recess in to the "suitcase". They are also suitable for tent
camping.
All the best with it - you have made a good choice.
Cheers,
Jezza.
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Follow Up By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 16:24
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 16:24
Hi Jezza, Will look into the Coleman self inflating mattresses.
Thanks Michael
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Follow Up By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 16:30
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 16:30
Hi, we tried a self inflating mattress in ours too, for the same reason, but unfortunately for me with a back injury it wasn't sufficient, I think Al found the self inflating mattress ok though, so really depends on your back and why you want a new mattress.
Lyn
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Follow Up By: brett - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 21:15
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 21:15
It seems since trakshak are now getting made in China the factory in SA aren't interested any more. Only 12 months ago you could have got anything from them, I got a groundsheet made up and also 2 new internal frame poles, no problems. They would also customise your camper to whatever you wanted, now you have to take what ever comes off the assembly line. Not sure why they have gone this way.
With the 3rd room your probably best measuring it yourself. Just measure the opening with the velcro on it, get the width and height, these are the critical ones then the length is from the opening to the back of the lid. Since your in the Shire I'd try Carlton Canvas or ACE canvas at Taren point to make it up, only needs to be lightweight canvas as it's mostly under cover. If your not in a hurry I could get you some dimensions but it's currently folded up in the camper as I leave it attached, probably a few weeks before I take it anywhere.
With the mattress try a sheepskin overlay or one of those egg shell things. I have an old sheepskin overlay and find it fine, but wife complains about it, then again she complains about everything.....
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Follow Up By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 22:14
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 22:14
Hi brett, I was going to measure the third room as you said, Judging by the website looks like it utilises the press studs close to the trailer and ties to the posts on the outside and has a false ceiling to keep the draft/critters out can you remember how it attached to the end of the second bed ? I was thinking of using that rope rail stuff. If there are any other tips about the camper they would be much appreciated.
Thanks Michael
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Follow Up By: brett - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 23:14
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 23:14
It has canvas sides and roof and a window at the end with a zip up cover on the inside the same as the windows in the camper, the floor is the same material as the camper, it has attachments on all lower back corners to peg it to the ground. The back upper corners have elastic loops attached, these simply attach to the bolt for the gas strut on one side and the latch to close the camper on the other side. When setting up you just loop them over these points and this keeps the roof up. Not sure about the press studs,
mine is a 99 model and I have no press studs anywhere on the camper. Only attachment is the velcro all the way around the opening
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Follow Up By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 09:55
Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 09:55
Thanks brett
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 04:25
Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 04:25
Self inflating mattress's will be going into our Trak Shak,as soon as we can afford it.
This will allow us to leave the sleeping bags ( flat ) on top of the right side mattress,
At present there are foam mattress's in our Trakie.
The other thing is that we found was to fold the trackie up a slightly different way. It helps heaps, ,,,,instead of folding the flaps of the tent in flat , also pull the leading corners back to the centre. This means that there is not much to unfold (fall down), when flipping the top over, and its a whole lot easier to clip up
Cheers Bucky
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Follow Up By: Member - michael H (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 09:25
Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 09:25
Thanks Bucky
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