Corrugated Roads and the

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The looked at corrugated roads tonight and tested the theory of whether it is a smoother ride going fast or slow. Going fast won although they did say that although the ride might be smooth at 70mph if you find a big hole at that speed you will break something. Well duh!

Pete
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Reply By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 21:43

Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 21:43
What happened to the words "myth busters" in my post? It doens't make much sense without them:

The myth busters looked at corrugated roads tonight and tested the theory of whether it is a smoother ride going fast or slow. Going fast won although they did say that although the ride might be smooth at 70mph if you find a big hole at that speed you will break something. Well duh!
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 21:47

Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 21:47
It's even smoother if you drop tyre pressures a bit.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: Ron George - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 00:22

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 00:22
70MPH on corrugation mmmmmmmmm that sounds like fun???? Saw a bloke towing an ordinary caravan with bog standard leaf spring suspension on the Battle camp road Nth of Cooktown a long time after the grader had gone over it... (Read bloody rough) And he was pedal to the metal... I thought if he makes it to the old homestead it will be a miracle… Never saw him again. But I’m betting it would be a heap of junk well before it’s time... Defiantly not something I’d try or recommend.
Cheers. RG.
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Reply By: longJohn - Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 22:10

Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 22:10
but remember dropping your tyre pressures a bit is a trade off between ride comfort and tyre wear. The wall of the tyre gets stressed many times more and the rest of the tyre heats up much more when you do this.
Play it safe and drive fast ( LOL )
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Follow Up By: Angler - Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 22:19

Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 22:19
Smoother ride may be mainly due to the tyres not fully making contact with the deep ruts.
When that happens and you want to stop or slow down the vehicle can side slip across the road. Anyone who has travelled on the Cape road and come across an idiot going too fast can vouch for that fact. They hit the brakes as they go round a corner and slide into oncoming vehicles and there is nothing they can do about it.
I reckon 70 would be about the safest, best speed and no faster.

Pooley
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 23:03

Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 23:03
Comes a time with Australian Corrugation where you slow down or wreck something, I would much rather sit all day at 10kph and get there than have to walk or leave the vehicle because it has expired
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Follow Up By: Robin - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:19

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:19
That's the one Doug.

Smoother for the driver maybe at the expense of the cars suspension.

Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: stano - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 18:37

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 18:37
I'm with you Doug. If the corrugations are painful just slow down and enjoy the view. What's the rush? Safety first and drive to conditions.
Stano
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Reply By: Busy Bee - Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 23:14

Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 23:14
Wasn't this corrugations question explored in the forum not long ago? There were some interesting links in the replies, to some scientific sites including Dr Karl K.
Try a site search.
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 23:31

Monday, Dec 04, 2006 at 23:31
That may have been my question about how they form.
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Follow Up By: Luke SA - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:47

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:47
Busy Bee, I dont think Pete was asking a Q about corrugations he was just telling us forumites what he saw on the telly :)

Cheers Luke
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:13

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:13
Hi Busybee

I posted some research on the subject; it is possible to calculate the best speed for a given height/depth of corrugation.....but let's face it, not much use out on the road unless you are a mathmetician....best rule of thumb is to judge what you think is safe for the conditions, but I lean towards preserving the vehicle as the greater the force you apply to something the greater the chance something breaks.
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Reply By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:42

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:42
I was just interested because the myth busters did it.
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:52

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:52
One thing that myth busters did that confused me was the spacing of the corrugations, or wash boards ast they called them.
They made them 4" high and 8" apart.
To me that is too close together.

I find as they get larger, they get further apart. What does every one else find?

The ones I measured up on the cape were 3" high and about 3 metres apart.
(OK, as a draftsman, I am into measuring things :O)))
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:12

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:12
We thought that they were too close together. The bush princess said that they should have flown out here and asked me where to go as I can find plenty of corrugations without trying!

Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:24

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:24
Plodder,

Shouldn't that be 75mm high and 3000mm apart or 3" high and 9'9" apart. Sorry being a part time pedantic old fart I pick up on stuff like that (LOL).

By the way I'm only part time pedantic. I am an old fart all the time. Just ask my kids.

Paj,

You sound like me. Set off down a little used dirt track and corrugations appear magically in front of you.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 18:26

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 18:26
Good one Duncs, did my training at the end of the old inch system, and it still carries on.
76.2mm x 3000mm.

Not being pedantic though :o)
Just old.
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 22:43

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 22:43
Got me.
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Reply By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 12:17

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 12:17
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i am sure these ones are not 3 mtrs apart
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 18:21

Tuesday, Dec 05, 2006 at 18:21
Yes, but they are not 75mm high either. :o)
Notice how the larger ones in the centre are further part than the smaller ones in the tracks.
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