Gear box noise 75 series
Submitted: Sunday, Dec 31, 2006 at 23:31
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Gold Member (WA)
Hey anyone out there know much about the gear box's in 75 series cruisers,
mine makes a slight grinding noise in 2nd, 3rd and reverse when it isn't under load(not accelerating). and when you do put it under load it disappears. it seems to be worse when the gearbox is hot ???
Reply By: Member - Pedro the One (QLD) - Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 00:54
Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 00:54
Hi, GoldMember ................. [GoldMember ???????????????]
Don't drive it anymore !!!!
My brother had a similar 'indicator' in his '96 Model 80 Series, ignored it and drove from Aelaide to
Sydney .. had it checked there by a Toyota dealer.
Discovered that the gearbox/transfer case oil [not sure which] had all but disappeared, thus no lubrication and much meshing/wearing of the gears. Presumably and probably over a relatively long period of time ...... like about
8 - 10 months.
Neccessitated a complete gearbox renewal, a 3 -4 weeks delay to get a NEW box from Japan [not kept in stock in Australia any more and the Official Toyota dealers wont install either second-hand or non-genuine parts] for a total repair cost of around A$5,500 ............. ouch !!
So frightened me ['92 Model 75 Series Troopy] that I had
mine checked out and then bought [on eBay $45] a Gearbox Oil Transfer Hose, which compensates for any loss of oil from one case to another [because of the seal failure between the two cases] by allowing the oil to drain back to the lower case.
Hopefully ....... said process may prevent ' your grinding noise' from causing a major drain from your wallet !!
Your 'symptoms' are almost identical to his ...................
BTW , his costs were so high because his motor was at an Official dealership [ in another state and in bits on their workbench, of course!] ........ your costs could be much less if you replaced the damaged items only ........... and got several REPUTABLE quotes as
well ................
Best of luck .......... and HNY !!!!
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Follow Up By: Gold Member (WA) - Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 01:21
Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 01:21
Pedro the one
HNY !!!
And Thanx for the reply, ive regularly checked/changed oil levels in both gear box and transfer case and they are always full, but it definitely sounds like gears not meshing quite right,sounds like i'll have to see me much trusted mechanic. there goes my xmas bonus eh
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Follow Up By: ross - Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 12:05
Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 12:05
It could be the clutch.
Or the 2nd and 3rd shifting problems maybe the sychroes going, with reverse being an unrelated problem.
Sometimes a thicker oil will make a difference.
Or it could be a $10 fix by replacing the nylon bush at the gearbox end of the gear stick.
It wears away to nothing and makes the gear changes imprecise;)
Remove the rubber boot ,twist off the gearstick retainer and put the new one on
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Follow Up By: Gold Member (WA) - Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 13:35
Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 13:35
Ross
thanx for the feedback, She's just had a new clutch bout 5oookm ago and they had to replace the nylon bush as
well cause they lost it in the proccess, its only done 140,000.
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 08:11
Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 08:11
You don't say what age the 75 is but if it is earlier than the late 90's it could be a
sign of the gearbox mainshaft/transfer input gear wear which eventually leads to total loss of drive.
You can check it yourself by first
parking the truck on a level spot, chocking the
wheels, handbrake off and out of gear.
Then remove the PTO cover on the transfer case (after first draining the oil), then remove the black tin 'hat' up on the back top of the transfer case. This exposes the end of the mainshaft which you hold with one hand while trying to rotate the gear closest to the front of the transfer (and rear of the gearbox) with the other hand.
If you have any movement between the two it is time for repairs, gen tojo bits and labour big bucks, Don Kyatt bits and your friendly mechanic much cheaper.
My troopy had flogged the shaft and gear out by 110k to the stage where the 4mm x 2mm splines were done to a 1mm triangle, this was in a truck which was only used for private travelling, no commuting or heavy work and was serviced regularly by me.
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Follow Up By: Gold Member (WA) - Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 13:39
Monday, Jan 01, 2007 at 13:39
thanks peter2
Its a 99 model with 140,000 on clock. i also notice that there seems to be some play somewhere in the drive line, I thought it was uni joints but they are all sweet, jeeez this gets worse and worse
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