Tyres - Would you use them?
Submitted: Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 12:29
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Old Nick
Sitting in my shed yesterday morning, 3 mates (2 of us truckies, 1 a shearer) doing the usual Sunday morning ritual testing cans of Carlton. Just about done the 2nd box and an electrician who works with my wife lobs out to do a small job in the house for us. Just as he came in the shed I was saying that on Wednesday I am getting 2 new tyres on the front of my 80 series L/C and are going to use the underneath spare and the one on the Kaymar (has a cover on it) on the rear. The original Grand
Treks are still on it, a 1997 multivalve turbo diesel. They have done 72500 kms but never been offroad.
Any how the electrician (Pom) says they will be no good, will be perished internally
and will blow to pieces first long hot run. OK his thoughts.
Truckie mate and myself reckon they will wear A1 because they will have cured out of the sun .
Shearer mate said, " I'm used to driving on shearers chains "(tyres with the wire hanging out!) and his old 60 series work bus would blow up with decent tyres on it.
Is the electrician right, because if you reckon he is the 2 new spares on it now can
stay as spares. Look forward to your thoughts,
Nick.
Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 13:25
Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 13:25
Nick,
"Is the electrician right, because if you reckon he is the 2 new spares on it now can
stay as spares. Look forward to your thoughts,"
Right or wrong, a spare is not a spare if it can not be used, it is only taking up the space of a tyre that can be used safely
If you won't put them on now and drive the vehicle what are you going to do when you do get a blow out. Use a tyre that might not be safe?
Wayne
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 14:51
Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 14:51
I would have said the same thing if Wayne hadn't beaten me to it.
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Reply By: Member - Barry M (NSW) - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 15:30
Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 15:30
I am still using a set of splits bought new on a 88 hilux,replaced by widies. Only put
them on over summer when sprayrig becomes fire truck & I cant wear them out.
Too hard perhaps. Private tipper drivers on the local council would buy a new set &
put in wool packs& store as they fitted current newies. They reckoned it doubled the subsequent wear, but I believe tyres are made different now. Those
old Road
Grippers dont see any speed but do it tough on firegrounds. I think they may outlast me. On the other hand if I drive 2 hrs on tyres that have seen hard duty
on sprayrig they blow one after the other, heat from many impact damages I
suspect.....oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: CLC50 - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 16:06
Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 16:06
Hi All
Just a bit of history.
I remember back in 1958-59.Frank Gardier the ex Racing car Driver.
Test 4 new tubeless Ties on him C type green Jaguar on the Mona Vale
Hill Climb,
Sydney , Rolled them of the rims the first corner .
Gee we all agreed they where no good & they would never work . I am not sure the Make but I think there where Goodyear.
Where we all wrong
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Reply By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 17:17
Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 17:17
Put them on for around town, but would not go on many gravel roads or not at all bush with them.
They are 10 years old and if they havent been on the road and flexed regularly then they will not last too long.
Mate put 2 new ones on with 2 nearly new, that had been spares, one stored in shed and one on the back covered over, for about 4 years, and drove from
Adelaide to Kunanurra, and they both died within a day of each other.
He now rotates all 6 around so they get a run.
Cheers Pesty
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Reply By: Geoff (Newcastle, NSW) - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 21:02
Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 21:02
Hi Nick,
There could be something in what the Pom says.
A couple of months ago a mate was telling us about a trip he and another mate had done from
Newcastle to
Cobar and back in an older HiLux.
The guy who owns it doesn't do many
miles in it, he has what he calls his town car.
They blew three of the factory fitted six year old tyres on the trip. The theory was that the sunlight had got to them over the years, hardening them.
Once they where loaded and asked to flex at highway speeds they had nothing left to give, got hot and failed.
Geoff
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Reply By: Old Nick - Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 22:01
Monday, Feb 05, 2007 at 22:01
Just thought of something, If the age of the tyres are going to affect the durability,
why haven't the 10 year old original tyres I am running on now blown to pieces?
Had to tow a tandem car trailer back from
Adelaide the other day in 38 plus degrees for 470 kms with a HQ holden ute on, tyres no problems.
Please help me answer that one in relation to the 10 yr. old spares!!
Just a thought Nick
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