New Toy - IPAQ Tom Tom PDA - What maps to use?
Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:11
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Pajman Pete (SA)
My work crummydore was broken into at Prospect last week. Some sods smashed the LH passenger window and made off with a briefcase of clothes and my PDA. The doors were deadlocked so they couldn't open them from the inside either. They missed $3,500 worth of
tools an electronics under the screen in the back of the waggon.
The insurance came to the party and gave me new for old on my PDA. Now my old IPAQ4550 cost over $700 new so when I went down to the toy
shop with $700 in my hand, there are some fancy new gadgets for that price.
I ended up with a IPAQ 5720 which has built in GPS and Tom Tom software. Not a bad unit and I have been having fun with the GPS. The current voice is John Cleese which is interesting. The only area it seems to have difficulty with is the Southern Expressway as it can't seem to understand that it only runs one way and changes direction twice a day - but then no one else can understand that either!
I loaded up OziExplorer CE on it and it recognises the internal GPS just fine.
Now I just have to work out how to download my natmaps to it.
Cheers
Pete
Hey, my spell checker tried to change crummydore to commodore. Even the computer recognises what they are!
Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:45
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:45
Let us know how it goes Pete. FBT year coming up in April and time to renew the toys (laptop and PDA). I'm quite interested in the 5700 or 5900.
Matt.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:04
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:04
It looks good so far. I have had fun driving around getting abused by John Cleese.
I don't need it in
Adelaide, but using it there is giving me confidence in its passage planning skills. I ran down to somewhere I hadn't been in
Murray Bridge over the weekend. It selected my usual quick back roads route through the
Adelaide hills without prompting and took me to within 10 metres of the final destination.
The country maps lack the detail of the Natmap rasters, but it runs Ozi happily and I am trying to work out how to cut the 1:250,000 up into reasonable size files to use.
If you get a laptop steer clear of the Dell's - I have no problems with my work unit, but no one makes a 12V power supply for them so you need an inverter.
Cheers
Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:19
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:19
Pete,
I get a new laptop each year and tried a Dell..once! Always stick with the Toshibas now and I have had a great run with them.
Passage planning is one thing, but how does it go in 'pilotage' mode? Many an old Navigator turning in their
graves with these new fangled toys, guess they only come with one personality.
Matt.
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Follow Up By: SA_Patrol - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:08
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:08
Pajman Pete you could use 1:50,000 maps for SA and use map merge to join them up so they became seamless, I also believe you can cut sections off the 250 seamless map so you only see the map that you require.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:38
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:38
Pilotage is not bad - 12 Channel receiver gives accuracy to metres. It can navigate me into the carport at home! Now it just needs to be programmed to say:
Captain Sir, Navigator, we are 3 yards starboard of the gutter, 300 yards to wheel over to port to new course up Main South Road, car safe.
Pete
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 17:00
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 17:00
Pete,
Dell themselves produce an adapter that plugs into 12 volt, or 240 volt, or an airplane socket. It's also cheaper than any other solution too.
Matt,
What problem did you experience with the Dell?
The multi-National IT Organisation I work for use them by the thousands. No known problems with them at all.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 18:08
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 18:08
Sand Man,
I shouldn't be so harsh, it actually worked OK.
I like Dell's idea of 'building' your own computer and ordering online, it was a pretty efficient process. I did have some issues trying to organise service and spares. I found them difficult to deal with and hard to get the 'right' person to talk to (at least in English). Also, I thought it was pretty bulky for its capacity and didn't like the display half as much as the Toshibas.
One instance where I have had a problem with the Toshiba, I got on straight away dropped it off locally and it was fixed very quickly.
Matt.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 20:11
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 20:11
Sandman,
How much is the adapter and do you know a source in SA?
Thanks
Pete
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 20:32
Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 20:32
Pete,
The only source I know is Dell themselves.
It used to be listed under Laptop Accessories on their Web site, but doing a search now, I couldn't find it. Suggest you give them a call quoting your PC model to see if they are available for it.
It is known as the Combination Power Adapter (ANZ) for the Latitude D family, Inspiron 510M, 700M, 6000, 9300 and Precision M60 Notebooks. The price when I bought it in late 2005 was $94.60 GST Inclusive.
It replaces the "standard AC adapter" and looks identical to it, but the input power cord is interchangeable. One for 240VAC and one for 12VDC + Airplane socket.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:08
Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:08
Thanks Sand Man
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Reply By: DIO - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:00
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:00
Sorry to hear about the theft of your property. Hope you didn't leave the briefcase placed in the car so that it was obvious to passers-by. If so - a sure fire invitation to 'low lifes' looking for a few buck for their next fix. From experience, many victims of damage to their vehicles have managed to prevent entry through a smashed side window simply by having after market (good quality) window tinting applied. Seems to create and additional degree of strength/security. The Golden Rule however MUST BE don't leave valuables in your vehicle. You could do it once (upon a time) but not any more. Too many light fingered creeps out there.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:16
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:16
Thanks for your good advice DIO, but I only left the vehicle for 25 minutes and I don't have time to unpack all the junk from my work vehicle every time I stop at a building.
My bag was under a jacket in the back
seat foot
well. The car was parked on a slip road next to a major
intersection in the afternoon rush hour in full view of the cars stopping at the lights.
No window tinting would have stopped whatever took the window out - there was glass right through the car. To add a little twist, I spent an hour and a half the next day vacuuming up all the little bits of glass. I then booked it into O'Brien's glass who told me not to worry about cleaning it up as they would look after everything including ... vacuuming up all the little bits of glass!
The police were not interested unless I actually witnessed the break in. The somewhat jaded Snr Constable I spoke to said that thieves are getting quite brazen because if they are caught they know nothing will happen to them, just another court appearance and they will be back on the streets.
All part of life's rich pageant.
Pete
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Reply By: Footloose - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:30
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:30
" it only runs one way and changes direction twice a day "
The mind boggles !
No wonder I cut across through Willem country to get out of SA. LOL
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Reply By: DFVZ - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:51
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:51
Great to hear OziExplorer works on it. I use a 5720 also, is fantastic with the built in maps, even in little country towns in NE Vic but have been looking for off road type maps to run on it. Victorian CFA maps I believe run with OziExplorer...
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Follow Up By: John R (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:12
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:12
I assume that you don't have the CFA maps? Or know where to get them?
I've got a full compliment of CFS maps, but no one I speak to on this side of the border seems to know if the CFA even has theirs digitised.
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Follow Up By: SA_Patrol - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:03
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:03
John R have you got a got a full compliment of CFS maps for SA, will they work in Ozi
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 20:19
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 20:19
John, I have the CFA maps on the hard disk but never used them as there are so many to try to work on.
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Follow Up By: John R (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 23:02
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 23:02
SA_Patrol the answer to both your questions is yes. If you want to take this any further, contact me off-list.
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Follow Up By: SA_Patrol - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 00:55
Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 00:55
John can I email you, I'm not a member so i can't contact you.
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Follow Up By: John R (SA) - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 07:01
Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 07:01
Sure: littlejohnnyr@yahoo.com
I'm just about to head off for a few days, so don't get too concerned if you don't hear anything for a little while!
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Reply By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:19
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:19
Pete,
Use the software that comes with the machine to 'view the files' or something similar.
My iPaq5965 has a 2Gb internal chip that is called the iPaq File Store. It shows in the list of files as a folder. Put your maps and .maps in there, and anything else you feel like in folders, and then set Ozi's search path to that folder.
Maybe it was the way I was converting them, but the maps that have been converted by Ozi to run on the PDA are a lot bigger in file size than the original .ecw format. I couldn't load all of the Aus maps onto the 2Gb chip so had to be selective. At some stage I'll pick up a 4Gb, or bigger, SD card and stick it in the slot on the iPaq so I can load all the maps I have.
If you keep TomTom running in the background with a turn by turn route loaded, and open Ozi then you get the best of both worlds. You see the detailed mapping in Ozi and get told when to turn by TomTom! TomTom is great - it tells me how to get from
home to work, and vice versa..... :-)
Tim
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Follow Up By: SA_Patrol - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 15:59
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 15:59
You might need a program to share the NMEA from the GPS to the 2 programs
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:39
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:39
That sounds neat Tim, I will try it on the way
home tonight.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 20:06
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 20:06
It worked just fine, Ozi up on the display with the Tom Tom voice in the background giving directions.
Pete
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Follow Up By: equinox - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 20:28
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 20:28
Hi Tim,
My new rx5700 works great. Ozi Ce is working fine, which is all I use it for really, so far. There seems to be no software clashes or problems that could not be worked out in time. I'm still trying to work out the tracking function - got me buggered at the moment.
I'm getting bigger files also, after converting them with the software provided by Ozi. For instance,
Southern Cross SH5016 is 2.25meg normally but 9.57meg after conversion. This is because of the zooming function (I think). I can still though, fit 6 or 7 map sheets on the internal memory.
I think it's great and can't wait to tweak it to its maximum capabilities.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 20:32
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 20:32
I like the way it comes with all the bits you need. This is the first PDA I have owned that I didn't need to get a car charger, or a case, or a mount or whatever. I am very impressed so far.
I like the bluetooth link to my laptop to sync files etc.
Pete
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 22:57
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 22:57
Equinox,
Reduce the colours to 32 and that file size will drop to around 6.4mb. Reducing the zoom levels will also reduce the file size (have'nt played with that yet).
OziCE will use the original ECW files though apparently it will run a little slower (have'nt noticed that yet).
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 13:38
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 13:38
Yeah I use Tom Tom V6 and a Jas Jam, it works
well. Don't forget to set your preferences, red light camera warnings etc etc and toll's preferences etc, not to mention if you want service stations and that sort of thing to pop up. Have fun..
And to the thieves, may the Lord of Karma seek you down and deliver you a lifetime of bad-karma..
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Reply By: DIO - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 15:46
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 15:46
Gee I'm a bit worried at the comment 'the Police weren't interested unless you actually witnessed it'. If an offence has been committed and you or anyone reports it then they are obliged to take a Police report (PIR) of the facts as you know them. Failure to do so is a breach of regulations regardless of whether you witnessed it or not, if you have an ID of the offender or not etc. Continued refusal by a Police Officer to take a report is justification to request that you speak to their Supervisor regarding the problem. How did you get on with the Insurance company without a Police Report? Bet they sent you packin'!
Yes the 'low lifes' are getting more brazen however that doesn't justify them or their behaviour. It's time to fight back and more the reason to ensure that any crime committed against you is reported otherwise we will continue to hear the bleating story from politicians etc that the crime rate is down and therefore they (the policticians) must be doing their job etc.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:42
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 16:42
He did take a bare bones report, but he said that was as far as it would go. AAMI were great and have already paid up, over the phone, no paperwork.
Pete
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Follow Up By: Muddy doe (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 21:27
Tuesday, Feb 27, 2007 at 21:27
Similar story here DIO. I had a smashed window break-in in the Prado and drove around to the cop
shop to make a report for insurance. The cop took the report and entered it into the computer and gave me an incident number to give to insurance co. She indicated that it was purely for statistical and insurance purposes. She did not even want to come out to the carpark and look at the broken window. I could have taken the bus down there and reported it.
As Pete said, unless you actually saw them do it or have video footage then the cops have too many other things to worry about to actually investigate such a minor offence with a view to apprehending those responsible. Given that you have insurance and will only suffer the inconvenience of replacing the goods (probably with better ones as Pete has done!) then there is not a whole lot of incentive to put police resources on this when they could be out booking people for doing 62 in a 60 zone!
Cheers
Muddy
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Follow Up By: whyallacookie - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 15:02
Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 15:02
Muddy Doe I think there are two important points here. First a crime was committed. Second you never know what they can lead too.
Whilst a manager at a Toyota Dealership we had some wheels stolen from a vehicle in the yard. (Not uncommon) They had broken windows on a couple of others to get jacks etc to lift the vehicle (before pushing it off to take the jacks around the other side).
Obviously this was reported and forensics came out. Whilst chatting the conversation turned to "bugger all chance you'll catch them I suppose" and the police officer made the comment that it is amazing how often, somewhere along the track these finger prints match up to another crime or suspect. They can't prove they did it but can put them at the premises etc. He went on to say the problem is too many smaller incidents are let go that could paint a bigger picture or pattern that leads them to the culprit. When they do get them they have a lot more and can do something about it by showing it isn't a once off event.
The person was caught about 4 months later over a domestic dispute. Even we (or the police) hadn't bothered they would not have been able to prosecute for this as well.
Trouble is the Police like most government bodies are so caught up in dealing with paperwork and things they shouldn't have to. They are left to prioritise the resources they have.
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