Travelling the Canning Stock Route

Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 21:14
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My husband and I are travelling the CSR in July. He is very well organised. I am not.
Are there any ladies (almost elderly) who have travelled this route have any hints on food ideas, cooking, clothing and water supply.
I know it will be cold at night but how cold?
I look forward to hearing from the female contingent.
Jan
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Reply By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 21:20

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 21:20
What ! Do you think us lowly opposite sex would not know the answers
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Follow Up By: Kiwi Kia - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 21:25

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 21:25
I think she may have been scared off by your photo :-)) Imagine bumping in to that good looking guy at a camp !
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Follow Up By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 21:32

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 21:32
If you think thats scary you should see the better half
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 21:39

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 21:39
Hi Jan

Go to TOPICS on the button bar above and start from there.

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Mike H (VIC) - Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 22:27

Wednesday, Feb 28, 2007 at 22:27
Hi Jan,
one of my female passengers advised others ( females ) that the most important item was a good Sports Bra :-)

It can be cold, but no problem if you zip your two sleeping bags together and cuddle up.

Enjoy,
Mike
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Reply By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 00:04

Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 00:04
Jan

We will be doing the same trip in July as well and I have Jan coming along with me too. In fact she's been with me for 37 years yesterday!

Drop me a member message and we'll exchange phone numbers so you can give Jan a call or catch up. We're in Upwey.

Cheers

Peter
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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 02:25

Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 02:25
I strongly suggest buying the guide book on the CSR by Eric and Ronelle Gard. It covers sights, food, vehicle preparation, remote travel, packing vehicles etc etc. It will answer questions you haven't yet thought of.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val W (ACT) - Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:22

Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:22
Hi Jan,

We haven't done the CSR yet but have some experience with remote and desert travel. If you could provide a little more background about how you will be travelling, whether you will be tenting, towing a trailer, what previous experience you have, it would be easier to give you a useful reply.

You will need warm clothing for nights, but for daytime wear simple basic gear - jeans and tee shirt, with sturdy boots/shoes. Go for practical ahead of fashion. You will need to carry ample water for washing self and clothes as well as drinking. Vacuum sealed meat (beef, lamb) as well as tinned and dry staples(flour rice pasta) will allow you to eat well - Im assuming that you will be cooking over a camp fire?

Drop me a member message if you require more detail.

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Reply By: Steve63 - Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 14:22

Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 14:22
Not female but my wife can't cook without hurting herself so here are a few ideas.

Track is mainly corrugated and sandhills. Travel is relatively slow for much of the track. Wife would attest to the requirement of appropreate underwear as the
ride is often fairly rough.

Temperature: Warm to hot during the day with temperatures dropping overnight. This varies a lot from day to day. We went down the CSR in August and I think the coolest night was about 5 degrees celcius It did get to 41 on one day though. Decent sleeping bag and maybe a back up blanket if you feel the cold should do it. One thing every one forgets to mention is that it can get very windy.

Clothing: Unfortunately you need to cater for hot and cold. Take stuff that dries quickly. We tend to take less gear and just rinse it out when an oppertunity arises. Most of the camping shops have gear that dries quickly.

Water: Have a decent map with all the operative wells on it. Don't ever be in a situation where you only just get to a well. We carry about 120 l all up but this is not required. Every one has there views. The minimum would need to be 40l for two people. Water from the wells should be boiled before drinking. Make sure you have a rope and good bucket as not all wells have a way of getting the water out.

Cooking: We tend to use a camp oven but carry a gas stove as well. You can't always find firewood. Using a camp oven is relatively simple and there is plenty of information around on how to use them. Try to keep to one pot meals if possible.

Food: We vac packed meat and stick it in our fridges. Obviously cans are ok but you need to carry them afterwards. Hard vegtables in a fruit box last pretty well. Pumkins, sweet potatoes, potatoes, onions, apples and oranges all travel ok in a box. Note it is not permitted to take fruit, veg and used fruit/veg boxes (even the foam ones) into the Ord River area. So if travelling north to south don't buy up big befoe you go. If you take a box they will take yours and give you a new one! This is not an issue as much if going south tho north. Most veg lasted ok till about 12 days. Far longer than I thought it would. Salad stuff is ok for the first few days.

Menu: I did the full gamit. Curries, stews, made some bread a few times in the camp oven, rice, Couscous. Roasts in the camp oven. Apple crumble. Vegtables wrapped in foil then into the coals. You can get flat breads that last about six weeks and travels ok. BBQed a fair bit of stuff. We ate just as well as we would at home. You just need to improvise a bit and let the menu be set by other factors like how much firewood you have.

For curries pre mix the spices and put them in a loctight bag. Bread is easily done using premix packets. Lukies (?sp) have non bread machine instructions and work a treat.

Stick anything that could leak and cause a mess in a locTight bag. At least the desaster is limited then.

A good trick is to take things you can cook for lunch the next day. We used snags, steak sandwich steak, preprepared lamb yiros, bacon in vacpacked ham etc. Just cook with your main meal and there is lunch the next day basically done.

Dark fruit cakes also travel well.

We even had a few bottles of red.

Be aware that you don't want to be using huge amounts of water for washing up.

The big secret is to do a full menu for every meal of every every day. Don't forget nuts etc if you want predinner nibbles. You really do need to do this so you know what you need to take. Once done the order they are consumed is pretty irrelavent. When you put the stack of food in one pile you will be surprised how huge it is. It is prudent to slightly over cater as it is easy to be delayed a day or so.

There is only one oppertunity to restock (near well 33) and the shop may or may not be well stocked as you go through. Don't rely on it. It can also be fairly expensive.

Steve
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Reply By: RustyHelen - Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 21:03

Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 21:03
Hi Jan
We would endorse Steves comments above.
Did N.S to Kunawarritji (Well 33 ) last June with "almost elderly" women. Of course they were with much younger men...
I started the day with layers and generally by lunch stop was down to shorts and singlet which lasted to 4.00 pm or so. Helen would generally get to trackies and singlet top. Nights were fire, lots of layers and bed early with warm PJ's. We travelled slowly, pulling up by about 3.00pm or just after each day. We are early starters though so were on the road by 7.00 am or just after.
If you plan on picking up supplies at Kunawarritji just pay the price, don't compare it to "home" cause you will be upset. But if the opportunity arises stay there and get talking to the residents. Absolutely fascinating for us. We chose to stay longer than planned.
We carried "too much" water and fuel but you never know.
Take your time and enjoy.
Rusty
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 21:21

Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 21:21
Jan

Here is a list of my vehicle set up, plus gear and tucker which we will carry for remote travel in 2007

Fuel: 95lt main tank, 240lt(12 jerrycans) in trailer
5x MRF Super Traction Crossply tyres on splits on GQ
2x MRF M77 Crossply tyres on splits on 7x4 Trailer.
2 x spare tyre casings, 6 tubes and 2 rust covers
2x Century 4x4 Overlander 700cca cranking batteries in parallel
Solenoid with dash switch
Gauze for bullbar and gauze for radiator
Blue Tongue 3 air compressor
2x Air gauge
4x Staun tyre deflators
Nissan Bottle Jack
1.8T Trolley Jack
Hi Lift Jack
Box of nuts, bolts, screws, cold chisel
Box electrical stuff
Multimeter
2x Wheel studs, 12x wheel nuts
Welding clamp and cable
Welding rods
Jumper Leads
Spare fuel filter
12 volt drill
Soldering iron
Tyre repair
Handful of gaters
Bead breaker
Tyre levers
9500lb Brawn electric winch
Tirfor Handwinch
Snatch block,
2x bow shackles
Tree protector
2x star pickets
10m spare winch cable
Bull bag
Spare hoses & belts,
Wheel bearing grease,
10lt engine oil
1lt gear oil
Power steer fluid
Brake fluid
Locktite
Coolant
Flash Lube engine lubricant
Handwash gel
Rugged Tool Roll(shovel, mallet, saw etc)
Another shovel
Broom
Plastic Rake
Pioneer Notebook
Natmap Raster 250k digital maps,
Hema Desert Trek digital maps
UBD digital maps
Mapsend Aust all states
Hema Road Atlas
RAA State maps
Oziexplorer software
Magellan 330 GPS
150 watt Pure Sine Wave inverter
Kerio DC charger
Codan 6924 HF Radio
Dune flag
Uniden 100 UHF
2 x Motorola Handheld UHF
Motorola 9500 Satellite phone
ZTE NextG phone
Oztent Ranger RV3
Oztent Screen Tent
Coleman Toilet Tent
2 x Self inflating camp beds
2 x pillows
2 x sleeping bags
12 volt shower
Mechanics fluoro 12 volt
Camera gear
Clothes bag
Caps
Bush jacket
Bush slippers
2x Beanies
2x bush hats
2xTowels
Binoculars
Medical kit
Reference books
2x umbrellas
32 litre Engel fridge and Two Zone
Bread box
2 x Roll up table
2 x fold up chairs
Porta Potti & chemical
Toilet paper
6 plastic tucker boxes(tucker and packaged fluids)
Freestanding BBQ plate
2 dutch ovens
Trivet
Saucepan
Billy
Billy lifter
Fire lighters
Gas stove
Roll kitchen utensils
15 and 10amp electrical chords
2x 2kg gas bottles
12 volt electric stove
2 fold up buckets
Thermos
100 litres water(2x20lt &6x10lt) in plastic jerrycans
1 x electric water pump
3x small tarps
1x large tarp,
8x camp interlocking mats
3kg dry fire extinguisher
Ocky Straps
Tie down straps
MP3 FM Player with 2.25 gig music.
Portable DVD Player with FM surround sound
Paints, canvasses, easel, brushes, more camera gear and toiletries.
Doggy stuff for me mate, Jeddah

TRIP TUCKER

Tea
Coffee
Milo
Sugar
Powdered Milk
Weetbix

Tins of:

Fruit
Mushrooms
Sweet corn
Baked Beans
Oysters
Mussels
Spaghetti
Raguletto Sauce

Packets of:

Pasta
Instant Soup
Instant Rice
Self-Raising Flour

Margarine
Bread
Sweet biscuits
Dry crackers
Vegemite
Marmalade
Dips
Cheese

Meat:

Bacon
Rissoles
Mince
Sausages
Steak (pieces)
(long trip…cryo-vaced meat)

Fresh fruit:

Apples
Oranges
Tomatoes
Potatoes
Carrots
Onions

Condiments:

Salt
Pepper
Mixed herbs
Curry powder
Gravox
Cornflour
Tomato sauce

Drinks:

Water
Cordial
Muscat

Spray on oil
Insect repellent

Hmmmm....hope I haven't forgotten something

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 23:02

Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 23:02
Willem
Thats the longest post I have ever seen
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Follow Up By: Oldsquizzy (Kununurra) - Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 23:11

Thursday, Mar 01, 2007 at 23:11
Eyes started watering half way through.
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Follow Up By: Member - bushfix - Friday, Mar 02, 2007 at 08:07

Friday, Mar 02, 2007 at 08:07
G'day,

how is that Two Zone going for you Willem?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Mar 02, 2007 at 18:09

Friday, Mar 02, 2007 at 18:09
Two Zone works well and the cook likes it very much. Just run the fridge on freeze all the time and stuff below stays frozen and stuff on top is kept cold. When out bush and stationary for a day or two, I run the truck for 20 minutes in the morning, the same at lunch time and again in the evening to keep the auxilliary battery topped up.

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Ian T (VIC) - Sunday, Mar 04, 2007 at 09:01

Sunday, Mar 04, 2007 at 09:01
Thanks for your resonses - there was a great deal of information provided.

Jan
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