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Well miracles do happen, after 2 years 6 months and 4 days of fighting for a date for a spinal fusion I finally have one. The 12th of April.
My question is how long do they keep you in hospital for after it? As I have my daughters Baptism on the 15th of April and am wondering what the average time frame of hospital recovery is.
I know a few forum frequenters have had it, I am having 2 screws and a bone graft done from the stomach, so I don't know if it is longer in recovery time.

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Reply By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 17:51

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 17:51
No idea Kev although I _very_ much doubt 3 days will do it!

The very best of luck to you and I hope it cures your problems.

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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 17:56

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 17:56
They dont keep you in hospital for long probably, but there will be a long recovery time like several weeks, not three days, we had a friend flat on her back for ages or walking, short distances, you're not allowed to sit.

Maybe a postponement of the Baptism is in order, or a direct video feed to a flat screen mounted on the roof.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 18:12

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 18:12
LOL the Baptism will not be postponed, the Relations have flights booked from all over the country to get to Sydney for the occasion.
Maybe if I'm lucky I'll get there under some family assistance.

I tried to get it done the week after the 15th but Surgeons are so hard to nail down to a date. I guess I had better just make the most of it.

I have been told that I'll be out of action for 6 - 8 weeks at this stage.

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Reply By: Bware (Tweed Valley) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 17:58

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 17:58
No idea either but I hope all goes well for you and wishing you a speedy recovery.

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 18:07

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 18:07
Kev
All the best to ya matey , hope it works out ok , just one thing, all will be fine so long as the screws don't come loose....??
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Follow Up By: On Patrol (Aust.) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:46

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Yeah Kev good luck. Stay off the corrugation's for a while mate, that will help the screws stay put.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:52

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:52
I'll request that they put nylock nuts as well as loktite on them so that they stay put.

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Reply By: Member - Lance S (VIC) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 18:53

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 18:53
Kev, just had back surgery for a prolapsed disc (broken Disc) 4 weeks and 3 days ago - see my surgeon tomorrow. Was in hospital for 3 days and since discharge I have been lying flat on my back for 90% of the day. The other 10% is spent doing small walks and sitting only to eat meals (no longer than 10-15 minutes at most). Driving is out of the question. The guy next to me in the ward had 2 screws in his back and was in for 6 days but every back surgery is different. Sorry to put a dampener on the baptism but looks grim. Hope everything goes well.
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Reply By: Gob & Denny - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 18:55

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 18:55
goodday kev
i wouldnt count on being out in 3 days
a couple of years ago i was flat out in hospital and missed a get together of all my kids and grand kids for a birthday so my wife made good use of the video camera to film what was going on and a heap of messages from them all

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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:54

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:54
Thanks,
SWMBO wants a video camera now LOL

I was in the process of finding one to buy last week, looks like I'll have a video camera soon rather than later now though.

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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:20

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:20
Good luck Kev

When they start messing about with ya it takes time to heal.

How about having the baptism at the hospital?

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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 20:09

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 20:09
I don't think a Batism with about 70 odd people crammed into the hospital would go down very well.
I think a good vidoe camera operator will have to do if things don't go to plan.

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Reply By: Member - Jack - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:51

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:51
Why not just ask your doctor?

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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:56

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:56
He said at least a month.
I don't think so, maybe a week at the most??

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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 21:09

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Sooner is better than later. Hope it all goes well for ya .. and you are back on your feet quickly.

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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:57

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 19:57
C'mon Kev, surely the quack has given you an indication of how long you'll be there? If not, work on a week. It seems to be the standard for any "heavy duty" work they do these days - 1 day to prepare, 1 day for Op, 4-5 days to check they have'nt stuffed anything too badly, then home.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 20:12

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 20:12
As stated ask your Dr.

I had my first one when I was 15. Was in a body cast for 6 mths after it. So, hope proceedures have changed since way back then.

Also depends on which discs you are having fused.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 20:43

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 20:43
I'm getting L5 - S1 done, I have to see him again in the morning.
Maybe he'll be more forthcoming with info, finally. It took him long enough to decide to do it.

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Reply By: Hairy - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 20:53

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 20:53
Gday,
Dont know mate but good luck and let us know how it all goes.
I might be looking at the same thing soon.
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Reply By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 20:54

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 20:54
Hi Kev M

Modern medical procedures are marvellous these days, I had the old Gall Blader
removed, seven days ago, was in hospital for 22 hours exactly.

I know your procedure is more serious, re healing ect, but they tend to get
you out asap, and give you a bucket load of pain killers, suppose with your back
problems, you have them already.

Im only new to this forum, just recently joined, I get a laugh at some of the
humour, it gives you a kick.

Best of luck
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 21:16

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 21:16
I'll have be medication free for 10 days prior to the operation so I think he wants me to build up to the amount of pain I'll have come post operation. I'm on about the max dose of paracetamol, Tramadol and Bugesics. So I hope they will discharge me from hospital with something with a bit more pain killing. LOL

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Reply By: Mr Fawlty - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 21:14

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 21:14
Kev, mate that sounds major work. I doubt that 3 days will see you clear hawse at the hospital though though a mate of mine had a brain tumour sucked out through a hole in his head and he was in only over night with extended HITH (hospital in the home)
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 21:19

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 21:19
Mr Fawlty,

Your an ideas man,

I'll look in to getting a good looking nurse to escort me to the church for the Baptism and the drinks afterwards.

Hopefully SWMBO will understand LOL

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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 21:30

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 21:30
Kev, Maaaaaaaaaaaate I could give you a recomendation for a "suitable" nurse unfortunatley as this is a "G" rated site David nearly has a fit when I post details of women suitably attired as nurses...
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Reply By: Kevern - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 22:58

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2007 at 22:58
Ask your doctor.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 10:10

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 10:10
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Follow Up By: Craigww2 - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 10:32

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Classic!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 16:35

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 16:35
We had better add one for Roachie and Mr Fawlty as I think all three of us well need one. LOL

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Reply By: tuck 01 - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 10:52

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 10:52
Kev
I've had two fusions, one about 20 years ago and the next about 10 years ago. Think I'm getting close to due for the next one. First one was the lowest disc, second was the next one up. Beofre the first I was told that several degenerated discs meant that the operations would gradually move up my spine. Guess if I live to be 190, I'll finish up having perfect posture and could get a job as a lamp pole.
My first was done by orthopeadic surgeon and involved only a bone graft holding me together. I was in bed for a week, in hospital for about 3 weeks, wore a big ugly full-back brace for 2 months and was 3 months off work.
Second one was neuro surgeon. In addition to bone graft, I was accessoried with 2 steel plates and several screws. Was out of bed following day and told I could go home when I was walking 3km (30 laps) around the hospital central corridor per day. As I had to walk a fair way to slip out for a smoke, I was up to 3km in about 4 days, but the surgeon reckoned I had not healed enough to go home. Finished up I was out in about 7 days. Returned to work full time after 2 months, by which time I was walking about 14km per day. (Never been so fit in my life!).
Both operations through the back, so don't know if the frontal-entry is better or worse.
Would be surprised if advances in last 10 years have not reduced timeframes from my second op.
Would (will) not hesitate to line up again when the next one is needed.
Clearest memory from both op's is the overwhelming sense of relief when, upon regaining consciousness, you first move your toes.
Good luck with it mate. I can assure you that the improved quality of life afterwards is brilliant.
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Reply By: longJohn - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 11:02

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 11:02
This is all very scary stuff! Im only 36 and out of the blue earlier this year, after having much lower back pain, I was told I had stress fractures of the Pars of the L5 (spondillylosis) which if it wont heal on its own (often they wont) needs fusion surgery.
Straight away I dropped the smokes, dropped the pushbike and took up swimming. I now swim 1km per day and eat 100% healthy and after 3 months now, its just feeling better and better. I might get another x ray soon to see if its visibly healed. The pain is almost totaly gone, I just have to remember not to lift heavy stuff as the potential to aggrevate the fracture will always be there.
and now im so fit!!

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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:38

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:38
You think it scary I'm only 30.
I saw the surgeon again this morning and he reckons that a week at the minimum for time spent in hospital, then about 6 weeks off work.

I would love to be able to swim but it created additional complications in that I am not a strong swimmer and it created havic on my lower back when I attempted to breath like your supposed to when swimming freestyle.

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Follow Up By: tuck 01 - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 14:18

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 14:18
Kev
I'm 52 now so was about 32 when I had first cut. But I'd spent many years having to live like a cripple beforehand. I was actually relieved when, after years of being told to "just do these exercises to strengthen the back" (to which I always replied "if I could do those exercises I wouldn't be here in the first place!"), I was finally given the chance of surgery.
After both op's, I was more sore on the hip where they went in to get the bone for the graft than I was in the back area. But it goes away, as does the constant back pain.
If you are a smoker, give 'em away as soon as you can. Feeble lungs was my only downside both times. And the bloody weed has still got hold of me.
Good luck.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 15:49

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 15:49
Tuck,

I've been going for just over 7 years, but only the last 2.5 years chasing a surgeon.
I agree about the exercises some of them you need to a contorcious (spelling)
The smoking is not a problem have always been a non smoker. I just can't wait for it to be over for an indefinate period.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 17:43

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 17:43
Kev,

Just so happened there was a spinal fusion operation on RPA last week.

The lady was discharged 5 days after the op so unless "complications" set in I guess that time frame about right.

I know a Daughter's event of any kind is important Kev, but I think you will be missing that one. Your health and recovery period is also very important am I'm sure your Daughter will understand.

Good luck with the Operation.

I'm just home from an overnighter in Hospital to repair a torn cartilage and I can't even get up off my Bum without breaking out in a cols sweat.
Just as well I've got a wireless modem for the Notebook so I can keep in touch with the Forum.

Jeez those Physiotherapy dudes are a different bunch hey?
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 17:55

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 17:55
Yeah the Outlaw (mother inlaw) told me about the RPA episode from what I could gather she only had an incision in her back where I am having it from both sides.

In regards to the daughter at 6 months I don't think she will miss me, although the church may ask for a reduced insurance premium since I wont be attending now. LOL

As to Physios, I have spent about 10 months straight which comprised of 3 visits per week on average plus 2 Hydro and 3 core stability classes. They must be taught to be cruel as every session was pure agony. I loved the day they turned around and said that what they were doing was pointless and I didn't need to come back unless I really needed it. So what a waste of time and effort.

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 18:30

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 18:30
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 19:10

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2007 at 19:10
I love it, with his bung knees a high powered accident is high on the cards.

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Reply By: warfer69 - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 02:55

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 02:55
Hi Kev

Had a double level fusion going back a few years ago,was 25 at the time,a bleep ran up my ass at 100 kms while i was stationary on a motorcycle making a right hand turn,Anyway cut a long story short i was in for 10 days they allow for twelve back then.My advise would be to think about it seriously because when their in their its just like a slab of beef, not like when your in the surgeons office and all the bits and pieces of your back,nerves,tendons are all color coded for them...Personally they know sweet F all about backs...I still need morph daily..

My screws plates,bone graft were done from the back and now they want to attack me from the front too,i hope they told you about impedance etc etc,I know its only small percentage but when i cant rise to the occasion myself i may let the butchers at the front...

I had the plates out about 18 months after the graft took and its basically the same time and pain as the first something the doctors politely leave off the list as well as other stuff... Although its been twelve years since so maybe things have changed

I wish you all the best as i really enjoy the occasional person that gets constant relief because its a huge decision !~

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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 06:30

Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 06:30
Will keep you informed.

I am currently chasing up getting the tadpoles frozen just in case I am one of the small percentage. But due to it being a workplace injury they reckon that it is an elective on my behalf and wont cover it. Even though it is a known side effect of the surgery. Go figure.

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Follow Up By: warfer69 - Thursday, Mar 15, 2007 at 23:28

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Hi Kev
I don't know much about your situation but a letter to your Solicitor from your Surgeon can do wonders...

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