UHF Radios
Submitted: Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 14:28
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Ally & Gazza
Hi everyone. Have not posted before so could you please be patient with a newbie. The question I have is that we have a
UHF radio in our landcruiser but I would like to put one in my RAV 4 as I have been making a lot of long country trips in it. I would also like a scanner but not sure if that is practicle so would appreciate any
feedback from others. The radio that has been recommended for the Rav4 is a GME TX3400. Not having much knowledge about this area it would be great if I could have some
feedback re this model or am happy to take suggestions about othe brands or models.
All help greatly appreciated
Cheers Ally
Reply By: Alan H (Narangba QLD) - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 14:44
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 14:44
Most UHF radios come with a scanning function.
The GME is a good brand - Icom brand is often considered to be up near the top
I don't think radios have a vehicle preference. Just ensure a good install whatever the brand and whatever the vehicle. Remember it will only ever be as good as the aerial so don't go cheap skate in this area.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 22:21
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 22:21
Alan
Where's the hole in the wall ....the tunnel, The only ones i can think of and been in is
Wombeyan Caves Rd / [Old
Grafton Rd its not that ] and I went through one in the
Kandos area years ago
Doug
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Follow Up By: Alan H (Narangba QLD) - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 16:34
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 16:34
Doug T
It is the tunnel on
Wombeyan Caves Rd
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 16:39
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 16:39
Thanks Alan
I wasn't sure , been a loooooong time since I went through it , about 1975
Doug
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Reply By: dawesy - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 15:35
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 15:35
Personally I think it's a really good unit. No good reason to go with it unless it lacks some feature you want. I think it's the one with the remote head which can be great if you have limited space, as you can hide most of the unit somewhere and just have the head up on the dash.
I've just gone through the process and ended up with the ICOM IC-400. If you want to scan a lot of other channels then it has the ability to out in 88 or so extra receive channels. I personally think scanning is best kept seperate on a dedicated scanner, but if you want to combine and scan in the 450-500MHz range it'll do it as
well as be a UHF CB. Also very rugged unit.
Cheers.
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Reply By: tomjones83 - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 17:11
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 17:11
the only thing i would
check is the ability to self program the scanning channels via the controls on the ufh. some gme models require computer linkup with software to perform this operation. my tx4400 is self programmable. previous slim models of the gme are not. not sure about the newest release. i know that all uniden models with scanning are self programmable. this was a big thing for me as i wouldnt want to rip out the uhf every time i wanted the police channels changed :-P
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Reply By: Mike - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 17:34
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 17:34
I have got a GME TX4400 in the car and a Icom Pro 400pro in the Landcruiser both great units and both self programable if you want to put in the Police Channels or whatever in the 450 to 500MHz(Receive only) in the Icom and 465 to 485MHz (Receive only)in the GME........and dont forget to use a good quality aerial.
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Follow Up By: Ally & Gazza - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 17:43
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 17:43
Hi Mike
Don't think police channels are availabe in
Adelaide. Apparently are all digital now and not available on scanners. But would love some follw up on this one if anybody knows.
Thanks Ally
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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin E (QLD) - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 09:47
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 09:47
Police channels in Queensland are digital and incripted in the SOuth east corner. The resst of the state is analog but I'm not sure that you can hear them
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Follow Up By: navaraman - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 13:45
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 13:45
Ally, you can't receive the police anymore in
Adelaide. I had my extra 10 receive channels removed from my radio as they are all but useless to me.
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Reply By: DIO - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 17:58
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 17:58
Police radio in SA is now digital and ENCRYPTED. You CANNOT (100% cannot) receive ANY of their transmission now. A real pity too. I believe that the public have every right to know what is happenning where and when etc. Won't happen now. For info, all Govt radio in SA is now digital. You will need a Trunk Tracker Scanner to be able to receive anything at all. They are not real easy scanners to set up. Certainly not as easy as the older type analogue.
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Follow Up By: markeaust - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 18:37
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 18:37
Same in Vic, also encrypted/digital. All emergency
services are headed this way, so my advice is to not worry about scanners etc unless you like listening to other stuff, like railways, etc. Personally I find it very boring as I listen to the thing all day and night at work.
In terms of the UHF, they're all quite good, just get one with the features that you need....ie selcall/CTCSS/Scanning/ etc
Cheers,
Mark
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Follow Up By: markeaust - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 18:39
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 18:39
".....I believe that the public have every right to know what is happenning where and when etc....."
You might think differently if you were at the other end of the stick with the police trying to locate someone who had just knocked off your 4by......
Mark
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Follow Up By: DIO - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 18:49
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 18:49
Oh Yeh. If the public were aware of the theft of the 4by, the make and colour, rego number, where and when stolen then there is a strong possibility that they could assist, with inforomation, in it's recovery. Same applies to Armed holdups, desc. of offenders and vehicle, public information (if they know about it in a timely way) can be vital in a quick clear-up, same goes for sex offences, house/
shop breaks etc etc. Police constantly appeal for public assistance - after the event - sometimes days or weeks. Otherwise what's the point?
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 20:49
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 20:49
What about crims with police scanners? There's some very valid reasons for secure police communications!
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Follow Up By: markeaust - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 21:41
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 21:41
DIO,
Not wanting to start an argument on this, but realistically, there would be so few members of the public with (or interested) in having access to police frequencies, that the reality of what you suggest is negligable. Whereas many offenders see scanners as simpy
tools of the trade and use them to their advantage to avoid detection...particularly in the drug trade.
Yes, police appeal for public assistance in many types of crimes but there will always be a balance between what they give/allow the public to have and what they don't pass on....bit like the argument between the civil libertarians and those who fully support the police/authorities powers to investigate. Somewhere there is a balance and IMHO the need for secure communications far outweighs the benefits of having a few scanner buffs listening in.
In my job. I have had 'interested people' with scanners turn up at scenes and hinder my ability to do my job. I know this will now stop.
Sorry not to agree with you.
Cheers,
Mark
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Reply By: Member - Olcoolone (SA) - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 18:56
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 18:56
Hello Ally I can sell you a brand new GME TX3600 with remote mount, We use Icom commercial radios and we got this one for a specific vehicle and we never used it.
It has full 40 UHF cahnnels and 99 programable channels.....we have the software to program it.
We are in
Adelaide.
Regards Richard
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 19:09
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 19:09
Ally & Gazza
I'm pleased to see no one has yet mentioned Uniden, go with the flow here and you won't be sorry, I'll just add the reason why , Uniden Radio's are hard to understand for the people listening on the other end, Distorted is the effect, Icom and GME will have a clear readable signal.
Doug
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 21:00
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 21:00
Rumour mongering Doug?
Or do you have facts?
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 22:12
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 22:12
Sand Man
Facts my boy FACTS, I don't know many times I've said this but on my Job I talk to Truckies all day and an occasional Caravanner, I get an answer from every Truckie even if it's just an OK but an OK is all I need to know he's using a Uniden , Ive put it to the
test many times , after I hear his distorted reply I say to him ...You using a Uniden mate , I always get the same answer, YEH ....why so I tell him how his radio sounds like Crap, I have mentioned this to other drivers and of course they don't give it any thought, just thought thats how it suppose to be until they do the
test too,
So I guess you must have a Uniden, trouble is the ones using them can't hear what it sounds like on the recieving end, and NO it;s not my CB or all recieved transmissions would be the same , I reackon 32 years of using and CBs teaches one a lot ,just the facts is what I go by, and by experience , so you going to dispute me on that too , go for it.
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Follow Up By: SteveL - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 23:03
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 23:03
All the major truck companies (Mack,Kenworth,Volvo,Iveco etc) fit GME radios as standard.I drive trucks for a large fleet in
Perth and all the trucks are fitted with GME's except for one, which is fitted with a Uniden UH 011. I always turn it off if I drive that vehicle,because when you are used to listening to a GME all day it's audio is atrocious by comparison.Also the controls are too small and fiddly to use while on the move.BTW, I don't own a GME myself,I own an Icom.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 23:29
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 23:29
Steve
As a truckie you know the message i'm trying to get over , some are that damn thick it's unbelievable ,
I too have an Icom , takes a bit to learn how to use them re squelch settings but the recieved signal is like GME very good, I see in a post down lower on the page where someone thinks that saving $50 by getting a Uniden is a good deal. LMAO.
Doug
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 10:04
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 10:04
dont need to be a truckie . My work involes alot of radi use and on the odd occasion some penny pinching has been involved with using Uniden (hire vehicles etc) there have been clarity issues
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 13:25
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 13:25
Doug,
Yes, I happen to have a Uniden, but I'm not paranoid about it one way or the other.
In the 6 years I've had it, I've never been asked "what brand of radio do I have" when on the airwaves and have seldom been asked to repeat a transmission. From memory, I selected the Uniden UH-100 over the GME of the era, because I preferred the way it operated.
My mate however bought a GME. Personal choice.
By the way, most garbled transmissions are usually caused by holding the Mike too close to the mouth, but being in the Trucking business, I guess you would know that.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 13:30
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 13:30
Sand Man
I'm not paranoid, just know the facts as i see/hear them
quote::By the way, most garbled transmissions are usually caused by holding the Mike too close to the mouth, but being in the Trucking business, I guess you would know that.
I hold
mine close to the mouth and people hear ok , maybe that applies to Unidens.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 12:34
Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 12:34
Ah Dougy!
You keep trying mate.
Firstly, read my reply. I did not accuse you of being paranoid but merely said I'm not.
Oh and by the way, a mate of
mine is one of the people who holds the mike too close (in front) of his mouth when speaking and guess what! He owns a GME.
Yeah!, maybe if I owned a GME as
well, I would hear him more clearly. ROFLMAO!
Let's leave it at that hey:-)))
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 12:37
Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 12:37
Yeh what ever . you can have the last say/comment
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Reply By: Mike from Northside 4 Wheel Drive Club - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 22:12
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 22:12
I also was lookinga t remote head unit because there doesn't seem any neat location to install a standard CB on the new Prado's. I was tossing up between the GME TX3400 or the Uniden UH015 (which is about $50- cheaper). I currently have a Uniden 090 AM/UHF combined & it hasn't given me any trouble. I like the fact that when I ark the car I can unscrew the mic & stick it in the glovebox making it less noticeable. Does the GME Mike come off. All the pictures are too hard to see.
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Follow Up By: George_M - Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 23:14
Friday, Mar 23, 2007 at 23:14
Mike
I have a UH015 installed behind the panel under, and to the left, of the steering wheel. The remote head is scewed up under the ash tray.
Other Prado owners to my knowledge have installed main units in the box between the front seats, on the side of the transmission tunnel, and in the slot inside the top of the glove box.
George_M
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 12:03
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 12:03
Mike
It won't give you any trouble , what the ptoblems is that they sound crap to listeners, people hearing your transmission, where as the GME and Icom have a nice clear readable signal, and that to me is one of the most important issues about radio, to be heard clearly with others always saying AYE !! what did you say , Nah can't read ya ,
Doug
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 21:03
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 21:03
Mike,
I have a TX 3400 mounted in the NM Pajero. There's two glove compartments - the remote head is mounted in the lower glove compartment, and the main unit with speaker under the dash on the passenger side.
The mike doesn't easily remove - it's doable, but a bit fiddly, and not something you would want to do on a daily or even weekly basis. The rubber dust boot needs to be prised away from the head unit to access the plastic tab that keeps the cord's connector in it's plug (the connector is an RJ-11 or similar, just like a Telstra phone cord).
The benefit of this mounting is that while the antenna is a giveaway that there's a UHF in the vehicle, no bugger can actually see the radio from outside the vehicle to plan a quick "smash and grab" theft. Can easily lean over, open the glove box and reach the controls/mike from the drivers
seat.
cheers
Ben
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Reply By: Member - Robert A (QLD) - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 02:46
Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 02:46
We have a TX3400 found it very good, very happy with it. I like they remote head.
As we are going to trade our car in soon, I didn't want to have to mount something big into the dash. So the head is just Velcroed to the centre console. Been like that for over twelve months.
Uniden UH015SX also has remote head.
Aerial is the most important part.
Rob
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Reply By: Ally & Gazza - Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:52
Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 10:52
Thanks heaps everyone for your replies.I am somewhat confused by some answers although the brand I should buy seems to be shared by most people.
Just thought I should be a bit more specific. We have the TX3400 in the Landcruiser and when we were travelling it was very distorted and hard to talk to anyone due to the noise. It is about 5 years old. That was the main reason that has put me off buying another one.
Also my RAV4 is only the baby one ( 3 Doors). I have been doing a lot of interstate driving and a lot of it is mainly during the night so would like to be able to stay in contact with the large amount of trucks on the road at these times.
Have also gathered by most of your replies that a scanner seems like a waste of time if all emergency
services are now digital end encrypted. If anyone can dispute this would love to know.
Thanks again everyone.
Ally
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