Simpson in April

Submitted: Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 22:23
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Well folks, Moomba had 33mm yesterday (Alice Springs just 4mm though). QAA, Walkers Crossing, Cordillo Downs, Warburton Crossing etc all still closed from info on Desert Parks bulletin / EO website.

We'd planned to cross Simpson in second half of April. At what point d'ya start planning an alternative trip?

Any weather guru's out there got any thoughts about how things wil be in 3 weeks?

Just cant get excited about driving up to Eyre Crk via one route and back along another.

Regards JD

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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 22:59

Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 22:59
JD

Maybe start planning another trek somewhere else. Reckon it will be wet for a while and there may be more rain on the way.
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Reply By: Hairy - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 23:05

Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 23:05
Gday,
Yesterday it was about 38 degrees with 90% humidity in Alice. Today its bloody cold and wet! Top of about 24 degrees!
Dont let that 4mm fool you either, thats all that fell at the airport but we had a lot more rain than that in other areas.
Alice Springs District - West

Coniston 31 Curtin Springs 2 Kulgera 7
Mount Denison 27 Ormiston Gorge 23 Rabbit Flat 14
Tilmouth Well 36 Watarrka 14



Alice Springs District - East

Ali Curung 7 Alice Sps Airport 4 Anzac Oval 7
Arltunga 96 Bond Springs 16 Bond Springs T/Off 8
Charles River 4 Gemtree Park 26 Mount Sir Charles 19
Territory Grape AWS 41 The Garden 72 Undoolya 19
Upper Bond Springs 37 Wigley Gorge 5 Wycliffe Well 37

I personally doubt it will still be raining in 3 weeks but who would have believed we would be wearing jumpers today?
Good luck
Cheers

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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 23:11

Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 23:11
Willem and I seem to agree on a lot of stuff and this is no exception.

Plan your alternate trip now. Watch the weather www.bom.gov .au is a good place to do that. If there is no more rain and the wind gets up it may dry out, otherwise go with plan B

When we went up the Cape in 99 it was very wet very late. We kept hoping it would dry out, thankfully it did, but not before we had become quite dejected about our prospects.

We sat in the CP in Cairns looking at maps realising we were in the wrong place to go anywhere else. If we had planned an alternate before we left home we could have been much better placed if the Cape had been a no go.

I don't know where you are coming from JD but there are options between the Simpson and most major centres. Some of these are quite close to the Desert so you could easily divert if you get to the area and find it is still wet.

Duncs
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Follow Up By: jdpatrol - Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 23:23

Saturday, Mar 24, 2007 at 23:23
thanks for the response Duncs
We're coming from Adelaide.
"dejected" is about where its at though! We looked forward to this trip for so long, but as you say there are some good options. JD
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Reply By: Member - beachbum - Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:19

Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:19
JD we are in much the same boat as we planned to leave Birdsville on the 26th of April. The last bulletin on the SA parks website was posted on 13th Mar and says QAA line is closed. Longreach office of Qld Nat Parks was contacted last week and we were told that if no more rain falls in the catchment of Eyre Creek it should be open by the time we want to go. I find the lack of updates on the govermant sites frustrating and it can't be that difficult to do more regularly and before the replies about no changes occur, I still think that an update once a week is fine. Not the least of the problems is folks being tied down to approved leave and the difficulty of changing dates. not a problem for us oldies but some of our group still making a living.
Travel safely and well.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:40

Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:40
The Desert Parks Bulletin is updated only when conditions change. So it may get changed daily, or not for months. They tell you to phone 1800816078 where you get to speak to an aussie human being, before you leave.

Also the outback SA roads number is 1300361033
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:51

Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 08:51
The best outback trips we've had are just after rain. It will be a great time to go whether Eyre Creek is closed or not. A loop through the desert after rain sounds appealing to me! The wildlife are active, the vegetation is fresh, and the sand is firm, so travelling is easier. And the crowds are not there.

If the Eyre Creek bypass track is open by then, then definitely do it. It takes you up to Goonamillera waterhole which was teeming with birdlife when it had water a few years back when we were there.

If roads are closed by further rain, its usually a great time to visit central australia, as theres plenty of water around.
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Reply By: Member - Ian S (NT) - Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 12:17

Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 12:17
Hi JD,

Spoke with SA rangers this morning. Lastest news from Birdsville side of the desert is that Eyre Creek is passable/fordable at Gooamillera Crossing 30-35 km north of QAA line. The rangers from Birdsville are coming out to Knolls on the QAA line tomorrow and will be crossing Eyre Creek. Having seen the crossing a month ago, I seems that all will be well for the season with an Easter start. Warburton Creek will take longer to clear I suspect, but no hard information.

Regards
Ian@Mt Dare
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Follow Up By: jdpatrol - Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 12:52

Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 12:52
Well that's unexpected and great news, thanks Ian.
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Follow Up By: Allan JJ - Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 17:54

Sunday, Mar 25, 2007 at 17:54
This is good news.
I was planning to be there at easter.
Hope all goes well and it is passable
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Follow Up By: Allan JJ - Tuesday, Mar 27, 2007 at 21:21

Tuesday, Mar 27, 2007 at 21:21
Anybody know if the rangers made it out to knolls or at least accross Eyre Creek

Also anyone know what the likely status for the roads from Innamincka to birdsville will be for easter.

Allan
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Reply By: jdpatrol - Tuesday, Mar 27, 2007 at 20:44

Tuesday, Mar 27, 2007 at 20:44
meant to say earlier, thanks all.

PS Phil, you've enthused the group. As in, 'stuff the conditions let's go anyway' !

PSS Hope to see you up there Beachbum.

JD

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Reply By: Allan JJ - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:04

Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:04
Just spoke to the Birdsville info center & they say the simpson is open via the bypass road for Eyre Crk.
Also the only track from Innamincka to Birdsville ATM is via Planet Downs

Allan
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Follow Up By: jdpatrol - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:41

Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 11:41
thanks Allan

After a quick look I wasn't able to find Planet Downs. I take it, it is via a route other than Cordillo Downs and Walkers Crossing?

I think you will be a week ahead of us - if you see an internet café at Birdsville or Oodnadatta, and can spare the time, could you please update us with any critical info.

enjoy yourselves. JD
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Follow Up By: wdric - Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 20:56

Wednesday, Mar 28, 2007 at 20:56
Old Planet downs out station is further north.
You would leave Innamincka heading towards the dig tree, then Arrabury, planet downs then turn left onto the Birdsville development road and head west into Birdsville.
Would proberbly add another 100 or so Km

ric
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Reply By: redfive - Saturday, Mar 31, 2007 at 23:09

Saturday, Mar 31, 2007 at 23:09
Gentleman

I wonder when the official word will be posted ill be leaving on the 26 April to travel out that way with 3 mates just hope it doesn't rain again

Glenn...
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