Generators in National Parks
Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 15:54
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Member - Bruce and Anne
Reading the trader section and I come across a generator for sale and the member said it meets "DB" requirements for National Parks. I have not heard that we are allowed to use gennys in NPs, but then again they never till anyone when they change the rules anyway, so could the member who has the add or anyone
else enlighten me please.
Cheers Bruce
Reply By: Turist (The Original One) - Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 16:14
Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 16:14
A caravan magazine recently had an advert for yellow generators.
The ad was supported by advertorial that said the generators were so quiet they met Nat parks requirements and were approved for use in Nat Parks.
I sent them (Geny supplier) an e-mail saying that I was interested in purchasing and would they supply a copy of the Nat parks OK to use paperwork.
Just a copy of the approval would be fine, I said.
Guess what.
Two months, no reply.
Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce and Anne - Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 16:41
Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 16:41
The reason the post Bob could not see EPA allowing us such a privelege, but Iam not a big fan of them in parks anyway. Misleading information can cause a lot of confusion.
Cheers Bruce
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Follow Up By: Turist (The Original One) - Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 17:32
Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 17:32
I just like testing what I see to be bullcrap claims that some make to sell their goods.
Did the same thing with a company that promotes their
toilet chemical as being so eco friendly that it is approved to be used in Nat Parks dunnys when emptying your cassete
toilet.
Did the same thing, wrote them a letter asking for a copy of the nat Parks approval.
Did get a reply but it was just a lot of useless rhetoric and no copy of any Nat parks correspondence.
Bob
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Reply By: Muddy doe (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 20:22
Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 20:22
Different rules for different parks and
reserves.
I did a Google search on "generator use national parks" and came up with LOTS of parks that say "not permitted" but there were a few that permit them in "designated areas" or between certain hours.
Did not find anything about certain types being allowed due to low noise (I have a Honda 1Kva that is very quiet). It seems to be that they are either allowed or not allowed depending on the
park.
I guess the option is that if you are in a more isolated
park and camped away from others then you could ask the
Ranger and they may
well use discretion to allow use if it is one of the more expensive quiet models (as opposed to the Bunnings $99 two stroke screamers).
I had also heard that there was some sort of National Parks DB rating but I also have not been able to actually officially confirm this so as pointed out above, it remains a "Sales Speil Gimmick" until I see otherwise.
Cheers
Muddy
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Follow Up By: Muddy doe (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 20:24
Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 20:24
As an example the site for Fraser Island has the following:
Can I take a generator?
Generators no louder than 65 decibels can only be used in informal beach
camping zones (where there are no facilities), and may only be operated between 9am and 9pm.
Generators are prohibited in all formal campgrounds, including the
Waddy Point beachfront campground.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 07:09
Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 07:09
Funny that every man and his dog who has a "honda" calls the 2 stroke gennies loud , read the actual specs ,or even better use a db meter on your so called screaming $99 2stroke and you will find that the noise level is only 1db different at the standard measurement of 7metres !!
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Reply By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 21:16
Tuesday, Apr 17, 2007 at 21:16
Was up at Dunn's Swamp (
Wollemi National Park NSW) on the Saturday of the
Easter weekend. Only went to have dinner with a mate and his family. 2 kids, one 6 and other 4. I Arrived around 4.30 and as soon as it got dark a group of campers started up there incredibly loud generator. Had lights cranking plus a number of electrical devices going. We were at least 50m away and could hear it. My mates wife instantly said "Oh No Not Again!!!!".
I asked what's wrong and was told that this group had been up to
well past midnight with their generator cranking and watching TV. I picked up the "
camping guide to Dunns Swamp" on my way in. I have always known that generators are not to be used in National parks. I made my friends aware of this and also had a look at the "
Camping Guide". It States the usual, no pets, no firearms, no collection of firewood and no generators.
Of course I had stired up some emotions but fortuanetly the
Ranger did his rounds, we saw him run as soon as he heard the generator. It was not turned on again whilst i was there but I left at 7.30.
I have come accross a few National Parks that do allow generators and have areas set aside speciffically for them. ie The National
park at
exmouth (Sorry can not remember it's name) Karajini National
park just to name a couple.
I admit I will run my little Honda 1kva in a national
park to recharge my camera batteries but I have a general rule that I will only run the generator if there is no one around and if there is someone around then I will drive around 5kms away from the
camp area and pull over on the side of the road.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 00:12
Wednesday, Apr 18, 2007 at 00:12
We did use our Honda and the air conditioner in the
Gawler Range NP one hot afternoon. Some kangaroos came out from under their bushes to take a look at the genny, then hopped back into the shade, quite unperturbed. No-one else was camped there to take offense. Vehicles are far noisier, so i will use the Honda if needed again when
camping away from others in a NP.
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