Dust in my Prado
Submitted: Friday, May 11, 2007 at 19:13
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blanchey5211
Recently returned from
Birdsville with my caravan and the incredible amount of dust that came in virtually everywhere. Each seatbelt when pulled out was covered, the sunglass locker above the rear view mirror was full, the air-con the same, each time we turned it on we were hit with a face full of dust.
Toyota couldn't explain it, however they completely detailed it.
Has anyone had the same problem.
We love the car, in fact we've ordered another one.
Regards Pete
Reply By: Pilbara2 - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 19:22
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 19:22
Blanchey what model do you have? I've got the 120 (2006) and so long as i have the a/c blowing on fresh air and not recirc i don't even get the smell of dust in the car.
I was told a long time ago to keep it on the fresh setting as this pressurises the cabin and keeps the dust out (sounded fair at the time and since i'm not getting any probs will stick with the procedure).
Have you fitted spotties to your car and had the switch run through the firewall, could be a grommet misplaced?
Good luck with the new one and good luck finding the problem with this one.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 19:31
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 19:31
HI there Pete, I'm sure 120cruiser (member on here) has had issues with the dust coming through the rear door on his 120 and has to cover the load to stop dust from getting over everything. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: kimprado - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 19:58
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 19:58
Pete
It's a problem with all cars. Some vehicles are slightly better than others, but if conditions are bad, there is nothing you can do about it (including air settings).
Wet conditions in the Outback have a far more detrimental effect on the car. If you drive through these conditions, get the mud off as soon as possible. Once it dries out and the Iron Oxide start to work you'll never get rid of it. Believe me.
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: DIO - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 20:27
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 20:27
A tried and tested technique for removing the remnants of red dust from around doors, seals hinges etc is to mix up acontained with Napi -San and warm
water. make sure the soap powder is fully dissolved. Using an old tooth brush and a bit of 'elbow grease' you'll be surprised with the results. In fact you can use it on most parts of the car, trim, fixings, strips, seals etc. A good rinse with fresh
water at the end is recommended to finish off the job. Good luck with it.
Re the dust, I agree with other comments about having incomming air on recirculate NOT fresh. Seems to work for me too.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 20:54
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 20:54
I'll certainly keep that one in mind for that time when our level 5
water restrictions are relaxed. (Its been raining here AGAIN today,
water resource management people should be fired, we've had
water restrictions for 18 out of 20 years !)
I will need a good supply of toothbrushes, and at my age they had better be electric :)))))
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Reply By: Footloose - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 20:27
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 20:27
Toyota normally have one of the best dust sealing systems on earth. (I'm quoting a motoring writer here, so be gentle). I've had Toyos with dust inside, but in every case there was an opening somewhere.
My last trip was dust free, until some idiot didn't close the back
barn door properly. Even at 40km/h, the dust from the Kidson Track was bad enough to get into every nook and crevice of the cabin, a situation not rectified yet.
One nice byproduct is that when the car is finally cleaned, turning the air con on will immediately transport you back to your last trip.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 21:06
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 21:06
Also, having windows open seems to create negative pressure and sucks dust in elsewhere.
Pressurising the cab, by having the air cond on Fresh (not recirc) works for me.
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Reply By: Member - Dedalus (SA) - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 21:22
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 21:22
defeinetly air open NO recirculatio fom me .... on my 80 serie + every single 100 serie I ever driven for my work!
Soon I forgot the air on recirculation I will start to have some dust inside!
It is working for me so far ....
good Luck!
Luca
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Reply By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 21:44
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 21:44
My 120 is dreadful.
I get dust in everywhere.
What I have done is fit an aftermarket cabin filter as the toyota ones are crap. I fitted a Jayair one which works
well. The toyota yaris part number fits the 120 prados.
I have also adjusted all the doors in and the rear door and run on fresh not recirc.
I still get dust in especially the back.
I have just returned from a simpson crossing, last night and I have had the best results in regards to dust ingress. I noticed with the windows down the dust is just sucked straight in even when the air cond is on recirc. The toyota weather shields probably aid in this due to them finishing short. I kept the windows up, the air cond on recirc and it was acceptable. I only had to clean my sunnies once in two weeks. I was also the lead car in the trip for the most of it which also helped.
As for dust in a 120, I give up. And like another post every time you turn the fan on in the car for the next 2 months you get hit in the face with dust.
My rectification for the problem is to find a 100 series GXL TD with a tray conversion and then have a metal industries back built.
Just my experiences after 2 simpson crossings in my 05 120 TD GXL.
Cheers
120scruiser
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Follow Up By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 14:27
Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 14:27
Mistakes in my post.
I run it on fresh and not recirc.
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Reply By: Member - Royce- Friday, May 11, 2007 at 21:55
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 21:55
That's how it should be. What's an outback trip without dust everywhere? It's all part of the rich experience.
My son has the old Hj47 we did our first trip in.. He still finds dust from 1990!!
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Reply By: Alan W - Friday, May 11, 2007 at 22:09
Friday, May 11, 2007 at 22:09
Hi Blanchey,
My mates 120 gxl is like yours, dust everywhere.
He's tried air con on, air con off, retic, fresh, on face, demist ,foot, every different combination of settings - still dust.
He's given up and now
places a tarp over everything in the back.
My prado is the exact opposite, hardly any dust whatsoever. But mines a Grande and I have the rear air con on, but I initially put it on to help keep the fridges cooler so they wouldn't need to work so hard. Now any dirt road, on goes the rear air con.
So if yours is a Grande - Rear con on.
Regards
Alan
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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 02:26
Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 02:26
Not being rude, but is there any point in preventing the fridges from running harder while your driving, as the battery or aux batter will be receiving way way way more charge than the fridges are drawing?? Just curious.
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Follow Up By: Alan W - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 19:11
Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 19:11
Hi D-jack,
My mate and I, plus others, did the Simpson in Sept 05. Some days the temp got to low to mid 40c but usually around the high 30c.
I had hired two fridges, 1 engel and 1 waeco,this was a test as I was unsure which fridge to buy.
Both fridges had covers and as I didn't need to stack anything on top of them (Had a camper trailer) were in the sun though the back or side windows.
The waeco was the only fridge not to cope, the error light kept coming on so we put it on limp mode or whatever mode its called. But at this setting the items in the fridge were only slightly cool, hence the rear air con to try and counteract the sun.
In the end I just disconnected it and used it as a pantry.
But a side effect was how little dust there was inside.
Cheers
Alan
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Reply By: disco driver - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 00:10
Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 00:10
There is a reason for those lift up vents below the screen on the older model landrovers. It keeps dust out relatively speaking
Years ago when most of the roads I travelled in my Series 2 88 inch complete with full canvas canopy were unsealed I opened the vents, rolled the sides up but left the back canvas tied down. Very little dust covered my swag etc. Roll down the sides and it was worse and shut the vents and you couldn't breath.
Wasn't my idea, did it in the army early 60's then saw Les Hiddin using the same trick in his Bush Tucker Man series.
Now if dust is likely to be a problem I take a big roll of masking tape and use it whenever necessary (Air Con always on fresh with all windows closed)
Cheers
Disco
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Reply By: time waster - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 07:32
Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 07:32
I had this with the current shape hilux on a
birdsville run could not see the dust but could smell it even with windows shut air on on fresh with no cars in front.
We had a rattle in the rear so i thought it was the two cabin vents at the rear that make a noise on closing the doors so i filled them with expandable foam that did not fix the rattle but put the end to all dust made it slightly harder to close doors but the last trip
gregory n/p,grr,
cape leveque,tanami no dust at all and no smell works best with fresh air in with fan all windows up the vents used to let the air out now its pressurised.
The prado vents are probably in behind rear bumper on the sides.
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Follow Up By: Joe - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 09:24
Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 09:24
Have a 2003 120 Prado and travelled for hours in finest bulldust from Mt Dare to Old
Andado without any issues for that trip or any other concerning dust.
I run the air on fresh... seems best result.
Getting the impression some of the later model rear doors on 120 are not sealed up us
well as first deliveries?
cheers
Joe
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Reply By: jondg - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 11:57
Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 11:57
the vx and grande models of the 120 have an air filter, which the gxl and gx lack. (I'm not too sure if this still applies to 2007 models though). I've never had a problem with dust in my vx.
jon
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Follow Up By: Member - eerfree(QLD) - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 21:12
Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 21:12
jondg
I have a 2005 GXL and checked today, you are right, I have a frame in behind the glovebox but no filter element?
I have done a lot of Gravel and Corrugated roads but we usually travel alone and do not get a lot of oncoming dust so have not had a real problem.
But thanks for
the tip! now it looks like I will have to outlay more money to upgrade.
Interesting point- the Owners Manual reads - Air conditioning filter(on some models)
-The air conditioning filter information label is placed inside of the glovebox as shown and indicates that a filter has been installed.
So check if you do not have a label then more than likely you do not have a filter!!!
eerfree
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Reply By: tdv - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 16:44
Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 16:44
I was just fitting the andersen plug to the rear of my new 120 and found the grommet for towbar wiring was not re-fitted. This lets a whole lot of dust in to the back! It is worth checking. Passenger side, fiddley to get to. Can go in via the Jack compartment. If that area is full of dust you can be sure it wasn't put back.
Tez
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Follow Up By: PeteS - Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 18:11
Saturday, May 12, 2007 at 18:11
Hi tdv
Yep, ditto.
I was adding my Anderson plug and found the exact same scenario. No grommet refitted after the towbar wiring was done.
Pays to check eh!
PeteS
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Follow Up By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Sunday, May 13, 2007 at 22:39
Sunday, May 13, 2007 at 22:39
There is also some vents under each side of the rear bumper.
Mine will be sealed up tomorrow for a trial with some 100 mile an hour tape to see how it goes.
I will check the grommet for the wiring whilst its on the hoist.
Thanks guys
120scruiser
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