Mobile Broadband

Submitted: Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 19:14
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We use broadband access at home and want to be able to access the internet when travelling. (Pay bills and emails sort of things.) There are a lot of offers around for 3G mobile Broadband and of course Telstra nextG Broadband. It appears 3G systems, unless you also have national roaming, are very limited in access. NextG system, Telstra claims, covers a much bigger area than any of its competitors including those competitors who offer National roaming. Does anyone have any suggestions or comments on systems they use. We are not really interested in using Internet cafes.
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Reply By: Footloose - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 19:24

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 19:24
Be very wary of what Telstra chickens tell you about their coverage. My wife is on Telstra, I'm with Optus. My mobile has always worked well here at home. Wife went to CDMA. Will it work at home ? Of course madam. Yes, if she's in the right spot and only wants messaging. Now madam you need to go to 3G. But will it work in my house ? Of course, madam.
She now has to drive down the road to use her mobile.
Meanwhile my old optus dinosaur just keeps on keeping on.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 23:28

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 23:28
F'loosie, I think the Telstra system is a bit phone brand sensitive too though. The Chinese Telstra branded ones aren't always as good. Make sure your madam has the longer distance one. They also usually work on 3G as well as the common GSM system.
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Follow Up By: Richard & Leonie - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 20:49

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 20:49
It is a bit hard to understand why one phone will work in a position and another will not. I had a Kyocera CDMA which worked everywhere (as long as there was a signal,) including in my home which is 1 km from a hill which has a CDMA tower on it. I changed to 3G using a Nokia N80 phone and could not pick up a signal inside the house. I had a few other problems like I could not put the phone in my pocket because it would accidently make calls to numbers on my contacts list and generally these were overseas numbers. After some "heated" discussion with Telstra about my problems they changed me over to NextG with one of their el cheapo ZTE phones. I can now pick up a signal in the house as long as I stand on one leg with my finger in my ear. I really do not think however that I am picking up a NextG signal. I think it is a 3G signal. Perhaps someone might know if Telstra have actually switched on the NextG system yet? My wife has an old Nokia phone which works fine in the house but not 10 kms down the road. (Mind you it's never switched on but I will not go into her logic about this!)

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 17:08

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 17:08
Richard, Telstra switched on the Next G network last October. The el cheapo phone you describe isn't as good as the other Next G ones. Heather has the multiband LG one and we have a car kit too in Moses. I think they are one of the better for reception.

I decided to go to Next G wireless and have an external antenna hanging under the rafters of the veranda and getting a full five bars. Reckon I will probably get some signal round Warraweena at least some areas in July for my email access.
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Reply By: lynxxy - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 19:38

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 19:38
I have been told that the hotspots which allow you to access the telstra broadband wireless internet are very good, and you should be able to access them just about anywhere.

You can check yourself by googling for the telstra hotspots and the area you expect to access the broadband from.

I was very seriously considering this type of access myself until I was provided with the telstra pricing plan...it was too expensive in excess of 80 dollars..per month. Telstra have the monopoloy over this type of technology.

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Follow Up By: Richard & Leonie - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 20:51

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 20:51
See the pommies comments below about using a modem instead of a mobile card.
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Reply By: Member - Ian F (WA) - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 19:40

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 19:40
Hi,
this is a hard one and I am looking at the same thing. I was on CDMA till I changed to Next G. So far so good and I found CDMA in the Gold fields was A1 (Kalgoorlie) and was not uncommon to have a 70km range with a car antenna. Any time I went to the Southwest had no problems. Whether NextG will come up the same I will have to wait and see. Some friends have Optus and the found here it was hopeless out of town, same with Vodaphone. Most mobile phone company's are only interested in helping the metro area.
Ian
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Follow Up By: Richard & Leonie - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 20:55

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 20:55
My son-in-law has a Vodaphone broadband mobile card and it works fine in Braidwood which is 80 kms from Canberra. According to Vodaphone coverage advice it should not work. I wonder however whether the NextG system has actually been switched on?
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 19:46

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 19:46
Richard

We have been using the CDMA card modem on the laptop for a year and a haft now, works fine, where there is CDMA / DIG. service it worked it is a on a bigpond dial up plane $20.00 per month (with all the discounts).

Hope to be getting the new nextG card soon, they need to sell enough before they can give them away.. LOL

Last year trip was across the paddock and we used it every night..

Richard
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Follow Up By: Richard & Leonie - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 20:58

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 20:58
The modems and mobile cards are a bit expensive at about $250.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 21:11

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 21:11
Sorry Im Rich... woops mean Richard..LOL

All thing cost alot but I now have a in car computer with the (what ever) slot in it and can connect to the internet whyle I drive ..

I look at things as a long term type of thing the longer I own it the cheaper it cost..

Richard
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Reply By: DIO - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 22:00

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 22:00
Talking about 3G, just watching the Grand Prix on Indonesian satellite TV. They are advertising 3.5 G and claim that it is up to 7 times faster. Talk about 'creative' advertising. Probably be all the rage in Oz before long. You've been warned.
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Reply By: Russ n Sue - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 22:08

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 22:08
I have used Next G for data and Internet and it works fine. It was easy to set-up, is very fast and the coverage is better than CDMA.

The downside? Tel$tra will not be opening this network to its competitors and you can see that reflected in the cost of their data plans. Compared to ADSL and even satellite services, their prices are nothing short of outrageous.

There is an upside to this. We use the JAS JAM phone as the data modem. It is also set up for wireless networking, so when we are in built-up areas I simply drive along 'til it picks up a wireless network that is unsecured. I then hook into that network and use somebody else's ADSL service.

Morally wrong, I know. Legally wrong? I'm not sure. I think it is encumbent on the owner of a wireless network to have it secured.

That said, I only send and receive emails when using other people's networks, so the usage is slight.

I'm a bad, bad person.

Cheers,

Russ.
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Follow Up By: Richard & Leonie - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 21:00

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 21:00
Tut tut. It is amazing though how many people have a security key to their wireless modem set at 1234567890!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 17:20

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 17:20
My wireless network is open: I have 25GB per month, or something, and don't even get close to it so I see no reason why other people should not use some of that.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Russ n Sue - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 22:11

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 22:11
Good onya Mike....where do you live?

Just kidding. The data usage wouldn't concern most people, but once the network is accessed, they are just one step away from accessing your PC and that IS a worry.

I have a program that could crack a reasonably tough Windows log-in and password that has got me out of trouble a few times when I had my computer and IT consultancy. I've never used it without the "victim" being aware that it was being used - usually because they have forgotten their password - but the point is, other people with less than honourable intentions also have these programs.

That is why wireless networks should be secured. It just makes it a little harder for the bad guys to access your PC.

It's your choice Mike. Personally, I choose to secure my network.

Cheers,

Russ,
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Reply By: Pomgonewalkabout - Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 22:26

Sunday, May 27, 2007 at 22:26
I've recently purchased a Next G modem and pay $49.95 a month for a 1GB plan.
The modem plan is about $40 a month cheaper compared to their USB card modem plan. My modem needs 240V, but actually requires only 6volts and therefore I have a 12v to 6v power supply so I can take the modem on my travels and plug iit into the cig socket in our 4WD and camper.

I get good coverage up here in Far North SA.

My other halfs, work phone CDMA with Optus is not as good as our Telstra CDMA phone.

I guess Telstra is now a private company, so I can't see why they will be opening up their network to other companies.

Unless you have a Sat phone then you will always come across blind spots no matter what company or system that you use.
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Follow Up By: Richard & Leonie - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 18:05

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 18:05
I looked at this Telstra plan and my understanding is the quoted price of $49.95 is for 6 months only and then it doubles. Am I reading the chart and offer incorrectly? I have seen 3 advertise $49 a month with 1G download but it is only equivelent to the 3G coverage not NextG coverage. If the Telstra offer is only 49.95 a month then it is more than comparable with one competitor plus it has bigger coverage.

Can you enlighten me as to whether your plan is $49.95 for the contract period or does it double after 6 months.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Richard & Leonie - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 19:46

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 19:46
Sorry, shows you how much I know what I am talking about, Zitch. Now I get it. You have a "normal" wireless modem such as one uses at home to connect to broadband. You must just unplug it from home and take it onto the road and as you say just connect to "240 volt" (whatever) to power it. You can then access NextG broadband. I presume it does not matter where you are it works just the same as if you were at home?

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Tuesday, May 29, 2007 at 08:45

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 at 08:45
Pomgonewalkabout I think that is the way to go. No hope here for broadband unless I do that - with the exception of satellite! Sat systems are to one spot and would give me access with a router to do the network distribution but the wireless modem with a 12->6v converter sounds good.

Richard you could go for the $17.47 for 6 months if you want to go that way. I had a brochure in the mail a while back that looked tempting until you looked at the small print. You can use the $79.95 to go superfast if you want to use the newtwork capability. Site Link for the plans. Their 3 gig biggest plan isn't lots when I hear what a lot of broadband users get to.
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 08:56

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 08:56
I used to access emails and the web on my PDA using a CDMA prepaid plus phone which was expensive but did the job.
I've just upgraded to NextG on a plan including a small amount of data. It is much quicker than CDMA in the metro area however outback coverage remains to be seen. I'm heading to WA for 2 months so this will give it a good run. Both the PDA and laptop run OK off NextG although the laptop is much more data hungry than the PDA. It was a bit tricky to configure the LG TU500 as the PDA and Laptop it required a special command string to access the Telstra servers through the phone.
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Follow Up By: Pomgonewalkabout - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 19:40

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 19:40
Site Link

The above link has a picture of the modem that I purchased and the plan.

I am on a 12 month, Next G plan $49.95 1GB per month.

I think 6 months is for the special offer which for some reason I didn't get, maybe it's because I was on dial up already with Bigpond?

As I mentioned and somebody elsewhere on this forum mentioned (which is where I got the idea from) The modem comes with a 240v to 6v plugpack so with a convertor from Dick Smiths or Jaycar you can run it from your cigarette socket and use it on your travels with your laptop. (slight modification required)

Alternatively you could purchase one of these
Site Link

But the plans are more expensive and so too is the purchase of the USB mobile card. a 1GB plan is $84.95 a month.

I guess at the end of the day you have to decide to buy the modem or the USB mobile card and go on a plan that suits you.
At home I only had dialup as there was no broadband until this new Next G system came along. I went for the modem because I will use it mainly at home, it has two antennaes so maybe better signal in the bush and at home.
You could also I think connect an external bulbar antennae?

With a little power lead modification I have made the modem mobile for when I am travelling.

In fact I have adapted a 12 to 18v Laptop convertor and a 12v to 6V modem convertor and put them into a diecast box. One cigarette plug input and two leads that come out of it, one supplies the laptop the other the modem.

3 x LED's tell me I have 12 volts input, 18volts output and 6 volts output.

hope this helps
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Reply By: Gob & Denny - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 19:55

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 19:55
goodday guys
as with pomgonewalkabout i have recently signed up with bigpond mobile modem
modems currently a bit cheaper $199 and $49.95 per month for 12months could not see where you saw about 6mnths plan
i find that the mobile broadband seems quicker than adsl at home and i run an invertor in the car and generator for the van i nearly always have 240 v avalaible

steve
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Follow Up By: Richard & Leonie - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 20:26

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 20:26
Telstra are advertising half price on their plans at present so the 1Gig "G Fast 256 kmbps" plan is $24.97 for the first six months and then goes up to $49.95. You have to sign up for 36 months and the modems are about $250. The way you are working the system seems the way to go. What I cannot understand is why does the mobile system (the card which plugs into the computer) cost twice the price of the modem system when they must do exactly the same thing.
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Reply By: Member - Emma P (NSW) - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 20:03

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 20:03
we have the mobile card it is good signal is very tempramental our house is not big in the lounge room drops out all the time in the bedroom perfect we only live 1 hour from sydney
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 17:56

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 17:56
Emma, distance to city centre is no measure really. I had no mobile phone coverage less than half an hour from one of Denmark's larger cities a few years back. Not too many hills there either.

You may be better to have a network router in your home and a server in the best reception area as we have. That way the internet is shared across several computers as needed.
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Reply By: That Troopy Bloke (SA) - Monday, May 28, 2007 at 22:06

Monday, May 28, 2007 at 22:06
I've got the NextG mobile card. Recently toured Kangaroo Island, and was surprised at the speeds I was getting in some pretty out of the way places, although in some spots where I thought I would get a good signal, it was pretty ordinary. I think that the terrain might have something to do with that though.

But having said that, I get better speeds at work in the Barossa Valley than I do here in metro Adelaide.

Cheers
Glenn
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Reply By: Graham & Ann - Tuesday, May 29, 2007 at 20:02

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 at 20:02
Next G is the way to go if your going outback or away from the main larger towns. We used to have cdma mobile card for th laptop, a cdma & a gsm phone. Have changed all over since January to Next g and so at least equal if not better signal in the areas we've been....We no longer have a land line and with our current setup dont need it as we do travel often.

1st thing to remember Telstra and Bigpond have different products/modems.
for Telstra check out....
Site Link
Site Link

For BigPond check out
Site Link
Site Link

I reckon you have 3 options.... get Next G phone and add a Telstra casual data pack to it, this maybe fine if your not often on the internet and only doing a few trips a year...

2nd.. get the BigPond 240v desktop wireless BP3-EXT usb modem on a 1gig $49 plan (or other plan of your choice) and if you want to use it in a car or van when bush camping then get a Power teck MP 3038 12/24v -6v 2a power supply adaptor for $25 from Jaycar..

3rd...get the BigPond mobile card or the BP3 USB modem for $299 on a 1 gig plan $85

lots say why cost differnce b/w option 2 & 3 it's becasue the BP3-EXT modem is basically used as a static modem getting it's signal from one tower, whereas the other 2 are mobile & powered from the laptop so you can travel along and have the signal switch from tower to tower just like a mobile phone and so more infrastructure needed so cost more.

Anyway option 1 may suit best if only for emails and paying a few bills, but if your surfing this and other sites you really need the 1gig option of 2 or 3.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 18:01

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 18:01
Graham, actually the modem has two antennas so it can sniff for another tower while going flat out for the tower it already knows. I think it may be better equipped than the standard USB modems to move onwards, though just not as portable with the extra boxes.

I will get the power box from Jaycar I guess soon and for the laptop too!
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