Alice Springs - Kings Canyon

Submitted: Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:45
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Hi All,
we are doing a little trip in august to alice springs.
the map i am looking at is not very detailed.
is it possible to go west from alice,through the various gorges,and on to kings canyon ?
looks like dirt, is road ok or rough ?
is kings canyon worth a stop ?

Thanks in advance for all the advice.
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:03

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:03
You had better get a good map. Buy a Hema Road Atlas

The road to Kings Canyon is bitumen for the first 126km and then gravel road after that with potholes. bulldust patches and corrugations. Or it coiuld be as smooth as silk if the grader has been there. You need a permit to travel the gravel road named Mereenie Loop Road and you can get that at the Tourist Office in Alice Springs.

Yes Kings Canyon is an internationally reknown tourist site and well worth the visit.

Try Googling the information you need.
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:44

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:44
If you want something a little more adventurous and scenic you could go through Boggy hole, otherwise...what Willem said.
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Follow Up By: grunter - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:51

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:51
How much more adventurous Hairy ?
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:09

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:09
A lot of the track is in the Finke river so fairly soft sand driving. Its really cooled down here so the sand wont be too bad. Its no worries in a 4x4 as long as your not towing, if you are, let your tyres down and you still shouldnt have any dramas as long as your careful. Much nicer drive through Boggy Hole than the loop road IMOA.
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Follow Up By: Big Mike - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:27

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:27
Agree with Willem & Co, Kings Canyon is great. I go up there every time I am out there, istead of the rock.
Merrenie loop rd, ummmmmm. Lift um foot up......Put um foot down!
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:35

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:35
Gday Big Mike,
You here already?
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Follow Up By: Big Mike - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:44

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:44
Hairy No, not for a few weeks, wish I was though. The merreni loop still sends shivers up me timbers, but the 44 gallon drum signs are a classic.
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Follow Up By: Member - shad D (NSW) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 19:33

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 19:33
boggy hole is a great spot ,went through in april,we even towed a camper trailer through easily,
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 20:11

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 20:11
Yep those 2 44s amused us also. bleep e of a road especially after rain. Drive to the conditions as usual and remember it aint a race. Watch out for live stock also heaps of horses, donkeys and the odd camel
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Reply By: Member - TasGareth (TAS) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:05

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:05
Hi Grunter
We were there September last year, from the West Macs you head south past Goose bluff, and link up with the Merreenie Loop. Dirt and Bull Dust, very corrugated, but well worth the effort. Keep the speed down and watch your tyres. Keep an eye out for camels and brumbys. Kings Canyon also worth the effort, take plenty of water. In the treks tab search West MacDonnell ranges and you will find a fair bit of information, you are supposed to have a permit to use the Merreenie Loop, available in AS at the tourist centre. We will be back there in September this year and will spend more time in the Macs.
Have a GREAT trip.
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:20

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:20
The answer to your questions in order is;

Yes.
OK.
Yes.

We travelled through and around that area a couple of years ago.

We were initially based in Alice. We did a day trip to the West MacDonnell Ranges. We started at the feature closest to Alice that we wanted to see and continued to move west stopping at everything we thought we would like to explore. Our trip terminated at Standley Chasm. We spent a long time here because we were having fun. The kids were enjoying exploring much further up the chasm than the vast majority of tourists, and I was enjoying looking after them.
We returned to our CV park much later than we had planned but it was worth it. The next day we did the same thing heading east. However, because we were not planning to travel that way again we drove past a few things to look at what we thought would be more interesting.

When we left Alice we drove rest passing Standley Chasm before we even thought about stopping. From there we stopped in looking at a number of the gorges along the way. We again got stuck at Redbank Gorge where we had a very cold swim. My desire to explore saw me swim, climb and crawl well up the gorge. This made us late so we were forced to miss a lot of stuff we would have liked to see. We did stop at Grosse Bluff before heading to Palm Valley for the night. The road from Redbank to Palm Valley deteriorated. In places it was badly corrugated but other than that was OK. We arrived at Palm Valley late and missed out on the good camp sites. We had a bit of a walk to showers and toilets but it was very quiet where we camped.

The next day, after a good walk through the valley. We listened in on the tour guide leading a group of backpackers, he didn't seem to mind and we learned a lot.

The Mereenie Loop, west from Palm Valley, to Kings Canyon was a nice drive, again it was badly corrugated but otherwise fine. A little sandy in places but we did see a couple of 2wd vehicles on the road. You need a permit which you can get at, although I did wonder what would happen if I did not get one, we saw nobody policing this permit.

We camped at Kings Canyon for 2 nights in the resort camp ground. Did the full walk and it was great. We again had a great time and KC is spectacular.

The HEMA map of the area is very good.

Duncs
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Reply By: Member - Hardo (NSW) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:37

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 13:37
Grunter
As already noted above road is accessible but a little rough in places. Permit costs about $2.20!!! from memory. If you like bush style camping try Kings Creek Station. A little further down the road from King's Canyon but a nice place to stay.

The rim walk at King's Canyon is a highlight. Also many other great things to see through the Gorges' and loop road.

Hardo!MPG:8!
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Reply By: grunter - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:56

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 14:56
Thanks for all the tips.
will definately get some good maps,just looking at the dodgy one at work at the moment.

Thanks again everyone,very much appreciated.
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Reply By: Member - Greydemon (WA) - Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:03

Friday, Jun 01, 2007 at 15:03
If you are going down the Finke river make sure you have plenty of clearance. I went down there a couple of years ago and had problems because of the LPG tank slung under my 1990 Pajero. I had to turn round and come back. (This was a vehicle that had handled the Gunbarrel no problems on the way to the centre).

At Hermansburg we spotted a sign in the petrol station saying that track is for high clearance vehicles only - too late unfortunately, but they were right. The track itself was easy, the problem was the large hump down the middle due to deep wheel tracks.

Then again .... it could all be different now!
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 09:44

Saturday, Jun 02, 2007 at 09:44
We experienced a most unusual sight when driving the Mereenie Loop Road.

We approached an "object" on the road which looked kind of like a long skinny snake from a distance. As we drew near to it, we could see now and again, how the wind affected its progress, waving sideways a bit then straightening up.

We pulled over and got out for a closer look and discovered something like 2 hundred caterpillars linked head to tail in a long progression. Sometimes the breeze would blow a few of them sideways but without breaking the link. Just whisked them off their feet for a bit until they recovered and continued their march.

It's just fascinating what you come across in the bush.
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