Big Desert Dingo

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Spent the weekend down in Big Desert Wilderness Park, with Uncle Des and a couple of other vehicles. On the Sunday night after Mr Lexic had left we had a visit with howling etc from what we thought must have been a wild dog. In the morning we awoke to find droppings around the front of my vehicle.

We all discussed it and agreed it sounded more like a Dingo than a Dog but none of us thought there were any Dingos down the low in the State. A quick call to Vic Parks this afternoon confirmed to us it was probably a Dingo. The Ranger mentioned they have Dingos in both Wyperfield and Big Desert....

Guess we might as well leave the gate open in the fence near Cameron's Corner etc.. (only joking)
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Reply By: Pomgonewalkabout - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 06:47

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 06:47
There are plenty of Dingo's around William Creek, I didn't need to set the alarm clock! Wide awake at 4.30am.

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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:49

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:49
Gday pomgonewalkabout
There may be plenty of dingo"s but not many cats..refer to the pussy willow just out of town.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 07:47

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 07:47
Think there must be a few around Blaze.

Have also seen them in east Gippsland , followed one for over 1 km as we left Billy Goat Bluff once.

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Reply By: Member - jdwynn (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 07:51

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 07:51
Blaze

We did a trip to Big Desert / Wyperfield last October. Whilst driving southern edge of Wyperfield next to a farm, a wild dog ran across the track about 50m in front of us. It was BIG, and FAST, dark in colour, and in this case definitely not a dingo. Livened up the trip! I'd never seen nor heard of them. When we got back I did a bit of reading, and leant wild dogs are also in the area, and that they are a cross between a dingo and another dog. Don't know what noise they make though. Wouldn't want to meet one to find out either......... JD
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Reply By: DIO - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 08:52

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 08:52
Sure are - Grampians and Ottways too.
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Reply By: Garbutt - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 08:56

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 08:56
They are definitely down there Blaze, it wasn't that long ago that there was a dingo control mob at Lameroo, it was called the Box Flat Dingo Control Board I think. It was there when I was living at Karoonda.

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Reply By: Member - colin J (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 09:32

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 09:32
Hi Blaze,
I had great views of a Dingo scavenging along a remote beach in Croajingalong National Park in far East Vic in Jan 07.
Yes they still are about and hopefully they are able to continue to survive in these remote areas.
Regards from Col.
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Reply By: 93 Navara - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 09:44

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 09:44
Plenty of Alpine dingos in Vic high country. Saw two together last year between Matlock and Walhalla. Not to mention amount of wild dogs that are now getting about care of hunters and people who can't take responsibility for their animals and dump them.
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Reply By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:02

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:02
Try this - creates a map of sighting records

Site Link

Be as specific as possible when selecting search parameters to get one particular species (not difficult with Dingo as there is only one species i.e. just select Dingo in first box and initiate database search)

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Reply By: Love The Outback - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:13

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:13
Hi everyone
I extremely dislike when people call dingoes a dogs.
The dingos are not dogs and never could have been, since they don’t bark but howl only. Behaviour in between of those two is so different too. I have nothing against dogs, but dingoes are Australian wolfs and they are beautiful animals. I hope they will survive for next generations, not like Tasmanian tigers.
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:41

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:41
LTO, I don't think anyone here has called Dingo's dogs, I just said that we heard the animal and it sounded more like a Dingo than a dog.

Having said that I am informed by some experts that it is very unlikely that there are any pure Dingo's left on the mainland. So I guess unless you have a DNA test done, anyone calling a Dingo a Dog or a Dog in the wild a Dingo would be right also...
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Follow Up By: Love The Outback - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:53

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 12:53
Dear Blaze
Yes, you probably right about purity of the race - unfortunately.
But you took it wrong way, I didn't accuse you to call a dingoes dogs at all.
It was simply a comment.
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 13:29

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 13:29
What ever you do dont call a Dog or a Dingo a Truck :)

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Follow Up By: disco driver - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 13:49

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 13:49
Without claiming to be an expert, 22 years in agricultural pest control has taught me something.

Dog Canis familiaris
Dingo Canis familiaris dingo

This tells me that the dingo is of the dog family and is not an entirely separate species.

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Follow Up By: Love The Outback - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 16:08

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 16:08
Hi disco driver
Cane / canis= Italian & Latin word for dog wolf is also from family of canis but it is not a dog.
Word probably come from carne=meat (eater)
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 17:14

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 17:14
The Wolf, Dingo and Domestic Dog (etc) are all (true) Dogs i.e. members of the Subfamily: Caninae, True dogs - Tribe Canini

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canidae

So, If you wished to be pedantic the term "Dog" can be used to describe any member of species listed as True Dogs (see above link). The "correct" term for your pet Fido is actually Domestic Dog - regarded by some academics as a subspecies of the Gray Wolf, and by others as a separate species.

The term canine (and I presume therefore canis etc) comes from the Latin "dentes canini" which is actually a fabricated (not a "real" latin word) translation of Greek anatomical terminology "kynodontes" (dog teeth). The latin word "carne" is different and is related only by association to canine/canis etc.

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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 23:25

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 23:25
"Australia's iconic dingo is an Asian dog gone wild. Like many Australians, it arrived by boat, possibly 5000 years ago, and went bush, living for the most part off the land and among Aboriginal communities." Uni of NSW website, and similar from many sources.
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Follow Up By: Love The Outback - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 11:11

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 11:11
Hi
Or it could be other way around. As the scientists were erroneous about some other things in past. They can not be 100% sure, that is only a theory and it can be incorrect........
Dingos have more characteristics of wolf than dogs anyway.
In my view it is unjust to say dingo is a dog.

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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 23:03

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 23:03
Dog or wolf?

Dogs started their interaction with man, when wolves first found the friendship to be of mutual benefit, and the so domestic dog began. Some breeds of domestic dogs today still bear a strong resemblance to their wolf ancestors. I have not read of when the canines barked instead of howled. Those dogs in Thailand found to be almost identical to our dingoes may have a common ancestor of an Asian wolf 4 or 5,000 years ago when the first dingoes are thought to have come to Australia.

Wolves will not readily interbreed with dogs, but dingoes will, to the extent that there are not many pure dingoes remaining in the wild. Australia's favourite sheep dog, the kelpie, has a strong dingo ancestry.

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Reply By: Des Lexic - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:15

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:15
After 2 bottles of scotch, a flaggon of port and numerous other beverages, I'm surprised you didn't end up sleeping with the so-called Dingo.
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:43

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:43
Geeez if had any more to drink I would have probably seen a Yeti or a Bunyip.....

Still there is the possibility that the howling was one Des Lexic still trying to get out of the park and probably stuck on a hill somewhere....;-)
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Reply By: Pomgonewalkabout - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 14:28

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2007 at 14:28
I know on Fraser Island a child was killed, maybe due to tourists feeding the Dingo's?, but in general in the wild if you came a cross a Dingo would it run?
Just the howling scares me!

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Follow Up By: Pete and Lez S.A. - Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 14:58

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 at 14:58
Depends what you call "in the wild". In the Simpson Desert they associate vehicles with people and food, they definately run, towards you hoping to find some scrap or offering of food. Definately don't leave any food out on bbq or anything around camp, attracts dingos like flies.
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