Nissan Service BAD

Submitted: Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:17
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As I send this the new Navara is sitting in the driveway outside my window at work waiting for Road side assistance to arrive.
Had the new truck in for it's 1000 km service this morning, drove 20 km to office only to have it die 100 mt from the gate. Will run but as soon as you get above 2000RPM is dies. Looks like a fuel problem
A quick phone call to the Blue Mountains Nissan service department to be told, Just bring it back in & we will see when we can look at it in the next few days"
Vince tells them he can't bring it back & is told to ring road side assistance as it had nothing to do with the service they did 15 min before.
This is my first Nissan and I think I have made a BIG mistake. Not happy as we are due to leave for the Flinders & then the Simpson in 7 days time.
Had to have a winge to someone.
Vince
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:26

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:26
Ummm....Sorry to hear of your troubles. Probably a small fuel problem somewhere.

This is surely not NISSAN related, but DEALERSHIP related.

Ring the Dealer Principal at Blue Mountains Nissan and make a BIG noise. He/She should respond quickly.

Hope it is resolved soon.

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:39

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:39
Yep thats sucks but have to agree with Willem sounds more a dealer thing than Nissan ......... Just bring it back ..... cracks me up I'd be just passed PAR boiled at that stage lol.

Hope all works out and you have a great trip.

Brian
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:48

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:48
Isn't it amazing how valuable their time is!!. & your time means nothing,

" Just bring it back", & we'll see what we can do in the next few days!!,

What the hell are they playing at??, Could not repeat what i would tell them.

Hope all works out.

Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Member - peter C (WA) - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:54

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:54
I had serious qualms about buying the run out D22 because of Nissan's attitude to warranty and the numbers of dealer horror stories. Ute itself is great though.

Hope you get it sorted quick enough to get some confidence back that you won't be stuck in the Simpson due to crap servicing.
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Reply By: Jeff from Austrekkers - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 12:25

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 12:25
Yeah but the dealer represents Nissan. Not many people walk into Nissan head office looking for service. Perhaps if this was a one off story about a Nissan dealer, but it's not, it's as common as sand on the beach.

What the hell does it matter that "it's not anything they did".???? It's a bleep ing brand new car that you spent how many tens of thousands of $$$ on, and it doesn't bleep ing go!! They should be falling over themselves to fix it!

I used to be a big Nissan fan years ago, I've had plenty of them in the past, but I tell you what I don't think I'll ever own one again, these stories just keep on comming year after year and never get any better....

Ring them up and chuck a massive wobbly. If that doesn't work, go down there, walk into the new car department and start mouthing off as loud as you can about how bleep house their vehicles are and how crappy their service is. I'm sick to death of this bleep poor attitude from companies like this, it's time we made our voices heard - literally!
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Follow Up By: Dave Thomson - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 14:42

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 14:42
Jeff I was begining to think it was me, I TOTTALY agree with you mate thats exactly how I feel about them too, they just seem to walk away and give it oh well thats your fault for buying it !!! I'll never forgive the attitude of Nissan HQ they couldn't have gave a toss that we'd ploughed all our savings into a time bomb, quote: if it blows up we'll have a look at paying parts or labour WTF !!! either way we were up for thousands on top of the thousands that we'd allready paid geez thats some service, how come we have to pay for a known fault on this car when in europe they replaced the engines ??? are we sub human or something ? no mate wont be going back there again sorry but thats just me .................
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Follow Up By: Willem - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 15:38

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 15:38
I disagree with you Jeff

The dealership is selling Nissans on an agreed franchise value. The same dealer may also be selling Mitsubishi or Holden products. Dealerships go after the best deal they can get with manufacturers.

If you read the post it states: A quick phone call to the Blue Mountains Nissan service department to be told, Just bring it back in & we will see when we can look at it in the next few days"
Vince tells them he can't bring it back & is told to ring road side assistance as it had nothing to do with the service they did 15 min before.

Here you are dealing with the service department. Although you would have the inclination to blame them for the problem it isn't theirs really until proved otherwise. When the vehicle left the dealership it was running well. The problem occurred 15 minutes later.

The problem could have something to do with dodgy fuel picked up somewhere. I don't know. Communications between vehicle owners and dealership service or sales departments can go pear shaped especially in the heat of the moment.

Service bloke advises to use Roadside Assist as that is part of the puchase package.

Because the vehicle is a Nissan does not necessarily mean it is the Nissan Manufacturer's problem or their attitude.

BTW swearing on this forum gets bleeped as you have no doubt seen. You need to be clever to get away with what you want to say in derogatory terms.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Jeff-WA from Austrekkers - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 15:49

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 15:49
Thanks Willem, howver I am aware of the "bleeping" that's why I just let the words out instead of find alternative (been on here for many years now, used to be a member myself).

Weather the dealer in question had anything to do with it or not is beside the point IMHO.

Years ago when I used to service computers for a living, if I had a computer leave the workshop (even if it was not sold by us origionally, just gettin some work done on it) and it crapped itself 15 minutes later, even if I KNEW that is was nothing I'd done, I would still fall over myself to rectify the problem. Of course if it was nothing to do with us we would have to give them the option of us fixing it and them paying or it, but you would not tell them that you'll put it on the bench and have a look at it over the next few days!!!

You are absolutally correct, they do not know if it was them or not. That's the whole point! Until they can prove it WASN'T them they should be making this problem an absolute priority. Apart from that, they ARE the Nissan service agent as should have a priority on Nissan warranty repairs, esepcially for vehicles that are as new as this one. If not, it is Nissan at fault for not ensuring that the importance of customer serivice quality on new vehicles is maintained by THEIR nominated service centres. It does not matter wheather the Nissan dealer in question sells Hyundias around the corner, it doesn't matter if he also own a Subway store and floggs frggin sandwiches, that's got nothing to do with the fact that he is a Nissan dealer and his responsbility is to A) his customers B) Nissan reputation for service.

If he doesn't want to make Nissan warranty claims a priority, perhaps he should change the name of his dealership to Bob's country cars or somthing.
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Reply By: Member - bushfix - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 12:49

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 12:49
good luck Vince, hope it all works out soon. still can't understand how a service dept person would know whether it had anything to do with the service or not!

i'd also jot down the facts and aim to get a letter off to the Dealer Principal, to go on record.
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Reply By: Member - Geoff C (QLD) - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 14:13

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 14:13
I've given up on Nissan as well. In the last 5 years I've bought 2 patrol utes, a patrol wagon and a nissan pulsar. The vehicles seem to be ok, but if there is a problem the local dealer is absolutely useless. The wagon had to have the roof lining replaced, they told me they couldn't hear the rattling and didn't do anything til I threw a wobbly and a service bulletin came out about it, tokk them best part of a week because they had to squeeze it in between other jobs, They overtightened the sump plug and loosened the friction fit so oil dripped all over the floor of the garage in my 3 month old house, took 3 goes and arguing to get that fixed. Every time the ute came back from a service oil dripped on the floor as they spilt some changing the oil filters and don't bother cleanig it up. I haven't go tenough patience to write about the steering pulling to the right on accelleration. The ulsar came with a built in rattle from the dash which they wouldn't fix because "Nissan wouldn't reimburse them"
Both vehicles that I still have are due for replacement but I won't be getting any more Nissans. Not because of the vehicles but because of the dealers/service.
Geoff
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 14:24

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 14:24
In your handbook will be a phone number for Nissan Roadside Assist. You get it for the first 3 years of ownership of your new Nissan. I thought you were supposed to phone them up, and let them sort it out.
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Follow Up By: donks1 - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 17:50

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 17:50
that just connects you to N.R.M.A.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 22:06

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 22:06
Yep, and the NRMA either fix it or tow you to the dealer.
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Reply By: Redback - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 14:33

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 14:33
Mate that's not good, hope it works out for the best.

Shame really being they are such a nice car, going on the one i saw at Dingo Dell.

Dealers are mongrels.

Baz.
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Reply By: The Bigfella - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 15:01

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 15:01
Not 4WD related but some years ago I owned a 1988 Nissan Pintara. They were renown for having faulty diffs. To cut a long story short after the diff in my 1988 Pintara had been replaced 3 times in around 3 months I was informed by my local Nissan Dealer at the time that they would not cover it under warranty any more. I wrote to Nissan's Head Office and to this day I have not had a reply. Needless to say this happened in the early 90's and I have never touched a Nissan since. I traded the Pintara in straight away after I was informed of no more warranty on the faulty diffs.
In the competitive market of today it surprises me that Nissan have obviosly still got the same attutude. No wonder I am a happy Hyundai Terracan owner these days.
The Bigfella
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Follow Up By: traveller2 - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 15:18

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 15:18
We were given Pintara wagons for work vehicles years ago, out of about twenty at the depot I was at EVERY one failed to proceed on a regular basis.
Being techies we eventually sorted them all out by redoing the grounding straps for the engine and electronics. As has been said many blew diffs, the best one was though one of the techs was heading home on a friday afternoon the day he took delivery, at the huge mileage of less than 100k's the entire transmission and engine fell out on the road as he was taking off at the lights. Diagnosis: the rear crossmember hadn't been welded to the floorpan on one side and one engine mount had no bolts attaching it to the actual engine!!
After two close acquaintances have had 3L Patrols let go I wouldn't be going near any Nissan.
The last decent one they made was the 120Y wasn't it?
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Follow Up By: GoneTroppo Member (FNQ) - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 15:46

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 15:46
I disagree strongly.
Datsun 1600 was the last good one, it was very very good.

OK OK the 120Y may have been reliable but it looked like a hatful of fundaments.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 16:44

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 16:44
The N series Pulsar was a great little machine,! reliability plus.

Axle.
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Reply By: Member - Poppy (QLD) - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 15:16

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 15:16
Vince
Despite what all the above replies say, I have to say that in the 5 years we have had our '02 GU we have had excellent sevice from our local Nissan dealer for warranty work, and we didn't even purchase it from them, instead got it from a dealer 1 hour sth of here. and we get it serviced at our own local mechanic.
Hate to be in your position, but I can't fault our local dealer, and they even wash the vehicle before we pick it up.
Cheers Ray

P.S They still can't come close to matching price of dealer down sth though, so picking up my new 4.2 ute down there in about 2 weeks, also southern dealer offered $5.5k changeover on GU for new Xtrail and local dealer wanted $11k, figure that one out !!
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Reply By: Grumpy in WA - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 16:03

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 16:03
Hi Vince,
I’m still wiating on that cruiise control device you promised me over two years ago, maybe it’s Karma?

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Follow Up By: Vince NSW - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 16:13

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 16:13
There is a tale behind that cruise control.
It was packed up ready to be sent, with address, and I arranged to have the office move while I was on holidays, (less stress for everyone in the place that way). When I got back & into new office warehouse complex had forgoton about the cc. When it did cross my mind & I asked, no one had any idea where it had ended up. If it turns up I WILL send it,
Vince
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 16:52

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 16:52
I think its funny! Specially the bit about "as it had nothing to do with the service they did 15 min before"
How do they know this without looking at the car..

Roadside assistance the car to them after hours, and park it sideways across their workshop door. lock it and take the wheels off.. treat them the same as they treat you.
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Follow Up By: Stu-k - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 18:04

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 18:04
They know it was nothing they did by the simple fact they do NOTHING on the first service only inspect things.
Maybe all that looking broke something tis after all a nissan ;)
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 17:53

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 17:53
Hello Vince, We hope the solution to your problem is as simple as it was to ours last Monday morning. My wife & I took delivery of a brand new Mazda 4x2 diesel from a Sydney dealer. After all the paper work settled etc. we set off home for Newcastle.
All went well for the first 25 metres of our trip, changed into second & it had no "go". I at first thought it was maybe because the motor was cold, but a warning light on the dash was on. Pulled around the corner & parked & the most RPM I could get out of it in neutral was about 1500.
Back to the dealer who was horrified, straight into their large workshop, 30 minutes later the sales guy came & informed us that the problem had been a pressure switch, he came with us for a drive so we could satisfy ourselves it was now OK.
Again we set of without further problem. He phoned us about an hour later on the mobile to apologise again & to check that all was OK. We were impressed with their concern that it had happened, mind you it leaves a bit of a worry in the mind just the fact that it happened. Hope all works out OK for you & that you end up as happy with your new Nissan as their are many people out there who are happy with theirs. Good luck.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 21:26

Thursday, Jun 21, 2007 at 21:26
Seems like everyone wants to bag a Nissan Dealer. The fact here is the dealer was correct every step of the way.

#1 They don't do anything at a 1000k service apart from a couple of checks.
#2 If your vehicle breaks down, you call the Nissan Roadside assist number. Not too many manufacturers give you this for free.
#3 As it turns out, Vince's problem was a crap load of fuel - very unfortunate on a near new car, but you should be venting your anger at the place you bought the fuel from.

Geeze you guys like to bag the dealers. I don't trust them either which is why I do all my own servicing, but we need to be fair about this. This dealer did nothing wrong.

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Friday, Jun 22, 2007 at 02:11

Friday, Jun 22, 2007 at 02:11
Come on phil,
1 tank of fuel would not fill a filter........... I know for a fact that if the vechicle had half a tank then there is at least 300kms minimum. Now only 1 tank will not fill the filter with crap....... If it did there would be an uproar in the suburb that the fuel was purchased at because there would be at least 1000 vehicles broken down??????
Mate Nissan has to make excuses.....
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:32

Friday, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:32
No matter what I say, you guys will bag the dealer.
Vince has bagged them because they fixed his Navara for free.
I know you're saying the dealer is telling porkys, but tell me what has the dealer done that was wrong and deserves to be trashed on the internet?????????

BTW, I've got nothing to do with dealers.
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Reply By: Member - extfilm (NSW) - Friday, Jun 22, 2007 at 02:15

Friday, Jun 22, 2007 at 02:15
Vince count your losses and sell it right now........... You want something reliable in the bush....... I am about to spend $500 on the rear springs because the springs look like an upside down banana. It is only 12mths old?????????
I am counting my losses and going back to gods machine by the end of the year
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