Service Ribbons displayed on vehicles
Submitted: Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 18:29
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Mr Fawlty
As a retrenched Nasho I was not satisfied with the 3 ribbon array offered to Vietnam Vets and now that in a rare vote buying exercise the Govt decided to issue the ADM I now have a row of 5. I took some time and drew up the artwork and now have these ribbons available for the display on motor vehicles. These are not cheap self adhesive things but are true quality representations laminated in clear plastic with a tag that allows the user to display them on the inside of the rear window by sliding the tag between the rubber & the glass.
My intention is to have even better quality ones made up in porcelain enamel on brass....
For those of you who wer'nt nashos or are true hero's with different ribbons then I can make them to order.
sydney-riley@hotmail.com
Reply By: Kev M (NSW) - Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 18:43
Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 18:43
Sounds good,
Can you do a number plate surround??
I'll email you with the ones I need, what's the damage on the hip pocket?
Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 21:19
Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 21:19
Kev, Number plate frames are available from the VVA.
I would only want postage so just a few $ to cover....The enamel brass badges may be more expensive, more on those when I find a manufacturer who can do small runs.
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Reply By: Steve Ellis - Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 19:53
Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 19:53
GDay Mr Fawlty. More strength your arm for creating the 5 ribbon array fot Vets, but I would point out that there are a lot of wannabes out there. These frauds would like nothing better than to get there hands on something like this, something to which they are not entitled. I would like to point all "Explorers"and others to a site that exposes these grubs. The site is www.anzmi.net/ Some are even senior people in the RSL and the Vietnam Veterans Association. Beware of Frauds. All the service records of Vietnam Vets are now available after the 30 year limit has been reached. Anyone who wears or displays honours to which they are not entitled disgraces the memory of those who are, and is also breaking the law.
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 21:12
Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 21:12
Steve
That's hard to believe that there are so many people out there, going to so much trouble and effort to lie..
keep up the good work
A none serving Australia.. Cheers Richard
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 21:14
Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 21:14
Yep Steve, so true. Trouble is anyone can buy just about any award they want thru Ebay NQA. I have seen cases of frauds even getting pensions from DVA who would have access to the CARO records so this may indicate that even DVA is infiltrated by those who support the frauds - perhaps maybe just incompetant. The "fake medals" are easy to pick though but it is most unseemly to closeley examine a chaps medals to see if they are fake or not.
Many Vets also choose to wear copies and leave their originals locked up....
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Follow Up By: obee - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 21:53
Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 21:53
They just walter mitty types, harmless. It's sad for them that's all and nothing for us to get exited about. They say plaigerism is the best form of flattery ay. Me, I only wear the two medals they gave me in 1970. They say it all and the rest are just superfluous.
Plenty of blokes got duplicates cos they threw away or lost the originals or they got stolen like one bloke I know. I have the roll on my computer and you might be surprised how many real veterans lie about their own service anyway. They got an army combat badge now so all those blokes who have been wearing the infantry combat badge can have two! You gotta laugh. Christ you should see how many medals some weekend warriors can wear!
Owen
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:06
Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:06
Hey Owen, if you have two then maybe you should apply for the ADM and if you were a Nasho you could also get the very smart Nasho's medal, in bronze and of Tiawanese manufacture....
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Follow Up By: obee - Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 16:05
Wednesday, Jul 04, 2007 at 16:05
Taiwanese ay? It had to happen, didn't it. The VC who lives on the Long Hai gave me his retired soldier's badge. Does that count? We gotta laugh ay.
Owen
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Reply By: Tony - Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 20:58
Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 20:58
I've got eight ribbons (medals), can you make up a plate for them. Not that I like to advertise.
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 21:24
Monday, Jul 02, 2007 at 21:24
Yep, but 5 is all you are sposed to wear in one row so you would end up like HRH Chas with 2 rows.
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 00:46
Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 00:46
4 to a row on male uniform, 3 for females.
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Follow Up By: Dion - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:56
Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:56
BS to the above for wearing medals.
Medals, suspended from their ribbons are worn on the left breast in ONE horizontal line, with the highest in order of precedence nearest the centre of the chest as follows;
The top of the ribbons is to be positioned in the same position as for the first row of medal ribbons or unit citation if worn. The bar of the ribbons is not to project under the lapel.
If nescessary to conform to this requirement, ribbons may be overlapped such that the highest precedence medal/decoration mounted on the bar remains fully visible.
The length of the bar is 95mm for three medals up to a maximum of 160mm for larger numbers.
Cheers,
Dion.
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:59
Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:59
We were talking about ribbon bars, not medal mounting, dopey.
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Follow Up By: Tony - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 11:29
Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 11:29
Yes Dion, you are right for medals in a court mount, but as I infered it was about a ribon plate.
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Follow Up By: Dion - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 11:35
Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 11:35
Ooops,......
Yep ribbon bars, 4 per row, with 3mm
gap vertical spacing.
Cheers,
Dion.
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Reply By: aceman - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 15:34
Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 15:34
Mr Fawlty
Do you have web site where these things could be viewed.
(currently have adhesive type on back of L/Cruiser)
Will the plastic tag break down and become brittle sitting next to the glass.
Cheers
Leigh (ex Vietnam vet 1969)
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 17:26
Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 17:26
Ah Leigh, did I work with you? Are you FADG Guards Leigh???? Anyway mate you are not an ex Vet, you never get to be an EX VET and sorry I don't have a web site....
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Follow Up By: aceman - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 21:24
Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 21:24
Nope.
104 Sig Sqn Nui Dat 1969 - ANZUK Force Singapore 1971-73
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Reply By: aceman - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 15:35
Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 15:35
Mr Fawlty
Do you have web site where these things could be viewed.
(currently have adhesive type on back of L/Cruiser)
Will the plastic tag break down and become brittle sitting next to the glass.
Cheers
Leigh (ex Vietnam vet 1969)
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Reply By: Mr Fawlty - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 17:22
Tuesday, Jul 03, 2007 at 17:22
An interesting site that explains all re medals, their care and dressing:
www.asacaustralia.com/index.htm.
Some others exist as
well.
The question as to whether or not the plastic will go brittle with age I can't answer as I have had these up for only a few days, considering the cost I don't think if they last a year that it would be too tragic....
To those of you who have asked if I can make up specific "rows' then the answer is yes but I would need to do some research to ensure that the colours are correct eg the ADM is not simply red, more a crimson/maroon....Some of the ribbands (to give them their correct name) have colours that blend gradually and these may be a challege to reproduce.
If you email specific queries and give me a return email address then I can email you pics...
I have a few to attend to so I'm up, up and away....By the way if I don't get back to you 10 ns after you email me please remember I do have PTSD and some things can take some time, just ask Miranda...
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Reply By: Yommy toe - Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 22:58
Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 22:58
Mate..good to see you having a go. On the east coast we can get vehicle ribbon bars but they do fade after about 12 months, biggest problem is that the edges peel up which leads to cracking. There are many nashos over here following your comments as
well as us regs. Keep us informed as to your progress regarding brass or porcelain ribon bars. Regards, Tom Yeo President,
Newcastle Viet. Vets Assoc.
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Reply By: Yommy toe - Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 23:10
Thursday, Jul 05, 2007 at 23:10
G'day mate, I am the president of the
Newcastle and hunter Valley Vietnam Vets Assoc please let me know if you can supply brass or porcelain on brass ribbon bars as we would be interested in them for our members. We currently can only get stic on ribbon bars and they are easily stuffed by the sun or car washing. If you can help please reply to. nclvets@bigpond.net.au Many thanks Tom
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