Landcruiser tyres

Submitted: Sunday, Jul 08, 2007 at 15:22
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We have a one off opportunity to swap the Dunlop Grandtrec AT22 tyres which come as standard on brand new 2006 LC 100 TD with any AT tyre we like at no extra cost.

We will be towing a 2600kg off road full van across roads like the Gibb River Rd & Chambers Pillar Rd. We had lots of trouble with Coopers with our previous rig and won't consider wasting money on those.

Has any one any experience of BGF or Bridgestone ATs or any other brand. How would you compare them to the Dunlop AT22s?

Many thanks for your help
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Reply By: Member - Ian H (NSW) - Sunday, Jul 08, 2007 at 17:40

Sunday, Jul 08, 2007 at 17:40
We have had great performance with BFG A/T on our 80 series and poor results on Coopers. You will polarise the forum quicker with a BFG V Cooper debate but I can only tell you my personal experience. Good luck with what everyou choose.
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Reply By: Mike - Sunday, Jul 08, 2007 at 19:11

Sunday, Jul 08, 2007 at 19:11
Whats wrong with the Dunlop Grandtrec? I have done nearly 60,000kms since new and still a lots of rubber left, go off road with them no problem, rotate them front to back every 10,000kms and dont hammer them along the gravel roads, pull a 2000kg van (LC100 series V8)
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Reply By: fisho64 - Sunday, Jul 08, 2007 at 19:34

Sunday, Jul 08, 2007 at 19:34
Cant advise on the tyres but watching with interest as I need to change mine soon.
On the towing side though you will love the 1HD-FTE for pulling 2 1/2 tonnes. Its a sound reliable design, happy to work hard. Is it an auto?
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Follow Up By: Highlands - Sunday, Jul 08, 2007 at 22:19

Sunday, Jul 08, 2007 at 22:19
Yes, it is an auto.
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Reply By: Farrelly - Thursday, Jul 26, 2007 at 06:48

Thursday, Jul 26, 2007 at 06:48
Have a good look at the G/Year MTR's or Silent armours
I am on my third set of MTR's and have not even had a puncture .
The've been to Cape York Simpson and in September Canning.
They both have good strong side walls ( 3 ply) and have heaps of carring capacity.
The MTR's are a more agressive tyre. but still run OK on the black stuff with a bit of noise ( especially when new). The Silent armours are a lot less agressive and quieter without compomising strengh'

Well worth the time to have a look

Ian
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Follow Up By: Highlands - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:02

Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:02
Thanks Farrelly. I wish I had heard of the Goodyear Silent Armours before. We have gone with Bridgestone 693s and will test them out soon.
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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 10:37

Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 10:37
I just put my 12th set of Oz made 693 Bridgestone A/T duelers on and I'm not changing brands any time soon.

Steve.
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Follow Up By: Highlands - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:07

Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:07
Thanks Steve. I can't tell you how relieved I am to hear that you vouch for the 693s. After all our research we had settled on the Bridgestone 694s. We asked our local tyre guy to get them in and when we went down to have them fitted he told us he couldn't get the 694s but got the 693s. We were flabbergasted but he assured us they were as good as the 694s. It's been a bit of a niggle at the back of our minds since then.

I assume the 12 sets you have had has been over a very long period of time.

Thanks again Steve.
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:45

Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:45
The 12 sets have been over 7 years, I currently run 4 cruisers daily into Jim Jim and Twin falls, so these trucks do 150 km per day on corrugated dirt roads.

I run them at 40 psi front and 42 rear, this with or without the car loaded, I also run heavy duty King springs on my 3 non turbo 100 series and a helper spring on my troopy, The ride is not to bad at all.

These tyres take a beating daily for 6 months, they have not given me any trouble at all.

I take them off at about 55/60,000 and replace them with a whole new set of tyres and rims, this leaves me with a heap of spares ( which I don't use ), I also use them on my 2 camp trailers and my new camper trailer.

The 693s are Ozi made and a lot stronger, 10 ply rated side walls, I had A/T 2 Floplops and at half tread they were stuffed and side walls were ripped apart from stones.

My new set with rims were $1320.00 for 4 and the profits stayed in Oz.

Cheers Steve.
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Follow Up By: Highlands - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 12:00

Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 12:00
That is fantastic news Steve. It's a weight off our shoulders.

We'll have Old Man Emu springs and drawer system and fridge fitted to the new TD 100 series vehicle. We will be towing an off-road 18ft van (probably Trakmaster) which we think wil be about 2,600kg - 2,800kg fully laden.

I'm surprised to read the air pressure you travel with but clearly you're hugely experienced and probably more so than almost anyone else we have received advice from. We thought conventional wisdom was to lower the air pressure when off road. 'Off road' for us will be roads like the Gibb River Rd, Tanami Track etc. What air pressure would you recommend when off road and when on the bitumen and when towing the van and without it.

I'm sorry to ask so many questions but I would really value your expert advice.

Thank you again for taking the time to help us out. We will look at our new 693s with far greater respect and confidence as a result.
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 12:46

Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 12:46
Many say lower your pressure and speed on a dirt road, I have never tried this method, having said that It may work.

I will give you what works for me and the many different way I work my tyres.

Yesterday I drove from Jabiru to Darwin and back, no load on the way in and sat on 130 kph, on the way back I had a small load and did the same speed on the way back,The tyre pressure was 42 rear 40 front.

The day before I did a tour to the falls, 100 kms of black top at 100 kph, 100 kms of graded dirt road 80 kph, 50 kms of 4wd track 15 kph, tyre pressure was 42 rear 40 front.

A typical 3 day tour is 1000 kms, 50/50 dirt black top 100 kph black top, 80 kph dirt usually corrugated, towing a camp trailer about 850 kgs tyre pressure 42 rear 40 front.

December last year we did 14000 kms, Darwin, Cairns, Frazer Island, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Finke, Cambers Pillar, Alice, Darwin.

We towed a camp trailer approx 900kgs the only time, I changed my tyre pressure was on Fraser Island, on pumping them up I found I had only lowered them to 38 psi as I didn't have a gauge on letting them down.

Cheers Steve.

PS With a turbo Diesel 100 series be careful when doing water xings, as a mate has done 2 radiators with the fan flexing into his radiator, He has done this xing hundreds of times, the only trouble he has had is with the turbo model.

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Follow Up By: Highlands - Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 12:54

Friday, Jul 27, 2007 at 12:54
It's very good of you Steve to take the time to give such a detailed response. We really appreciate and value your advice. Many thanks again.
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 18:14

Saturday, Jul 28, 2007 at 18:14
I ran D693's on an NM Pajero and found their traction poor in rough terrain although they were robust.

I put a set of D694's on the TD100 when I bought it in 2005 and after 20,000KM had no end of trouble with numerous punctures and a holed and slashed sidewall.

I replaced them last year at 34,000KM, after one was completly worn, with BFG MT's that now have 50,000KM on them with plenty of wear left. I rotate my tyres every 10,000KM.

The BFG's have done the OTL, Tanami and Plenty in that time with no puntures, touch wood, with some pretty hard hits. I generally run them at 40PSI and am also suprised at how quiet they are.
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Follow Up By: Highlands - Sunday, Jul 29, 2007 at 22:36

Sunday, Jul 29, 2007 at 22:36
Thanks Richard

You also make me pleased we didn't end up with the 694s. The 693s are now on so we will have to see how they go. However, we'll bear your commennts about BFGs if we have any problems.
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Reply By: Member - Earvin (NSW) - Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 07:03

Monday, Jul 30, 2007 at 07:03
My Patrol came with 694's, and I had no problems with them at all, apart from in real sticky mud they would clog up easily but then again they are not made for this. Over our 12000km journey up to the Cobourg Peninsula, towing a camper trailer, they performed without any drama's.

I have since gone to a mud terrain but I must say i was surprised at how the 694 performed. I did run reduced pressure's though.
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