best solar panel, bang for buck & durability

Submitted: Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 08:53
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it seems conditions apply for all the peak operating enviroments for solar panels so I was wonderring...

a} IYHO, what is the best poanel "bang-for-buck"?
b} IYHO, what is the best panel "angle mounted roof-top van"?
c} best place to buy panel and regulators?
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Reply By: Steve - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 10:45

Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 10:45
Unisolar...they dont break and work in part shade I have 2 on top of motorhome 64 Watts each and they are the best thing i ever bought ..
Got them at Australia Wide Solar in Penshurst in Sydney

Angle mounting is not of any real benefit..but no doubt someone will argue this point !! Lots of people check this site for a tussle !!!
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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:56

Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:56
Hi Steve,
Mine are mounted at a slight angle, but only so they clear other stuff packed on the roof rack. If I'm not using the roof rack then they mount on pack bar mounts and sit flat.
So I tend to agree with you; esp if the glass/coating is stippled, which takes the sun in from a wider angle, it's better to mount them flat, and accept a small reduction in performance for total convenience.
But there is still an improvement facing the panels directly to the sun, and mine can tilt for those days when there is minimal sun due to cloud.
I agree, the Unisolar are pretty unbreakable, just a bit bigger for the output than the crystalline versions. A colleague had them - I advised him to tie them down securely to his roof rack. He used occy straps to tie them down, and of course the wind blew them up and bent them. And someone drove over one corner, and they still kept working. They still worked fine after these mishaps, so they're fairly indestructable.
The Unisolar seemed to be less temperature-affected than the crystalline versions as well.
I've seen a comment somewhere that the soft plastic coating on the Unisolar can attract/absorb dust to their detriment. Perhaps you could comment on this.
Cheers
Gerry
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Reply By: Turist - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 13:36

Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 13:36
From the Uni-solar web sight:

The module should be secured by ropes or clips using the grommet holes on the flexible module frame. When in the Southern Hemisphere (below the equator), tilt the module (from horizontal) to face the North. When in the Northern Hemisphere, tilt the module to face the south. The tilt angle of the module should match the latitude of your location plus 10 degrees. For example, in Sydney, tilt the module to the north at a 43-degree angle (latitude of Sydney = 33 degrees + 10). If the module is mounted flat (parallel to the ground), the module's electrical output will not be maximized. Although, if the vehicle or boat is moving, a flat mounted module will provide a consistent output no matter which direction the vehicle or boat is pointed. At the equator, the module can lie flat, but tilted 10 degrees, to ensure proper precipitation run-off.
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Reply By: rbt - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 14:18

Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 14:18
the tilt is so I can use it as a wind-defleter for my roof-racks - with a small forward spoiler...

OMG that sounds brrrutish on them @110KPH but smile as ruefully as you like, a "slight" tilt with a forward spoiler isnt going to affect them AND I can call me a hybrid.. fossil-fueled with electric-aerodynamic-panels

anyway
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi B - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 14:45

Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 14:45
I used Unisolar 64W panel last year and it performed no better than an old 64W BP panel on a second set-up, doing only 2.5 amps once the daytime temps climbed over 35 degrees. Dust was definitely a downside with the Uni and it was quite a job to keep it clean as opposed to the glass one.

Have replaced both panels with a pair of 130W Kyocera units coz in the hot weather 65W wasn't enuf.

Good luck,
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Reply By: Montemoo - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 16:54

Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 16:54
We bought our 2 x kyocera 130W panels from Tasman Energy (www.tasmanenergy.com.au). The guy there is a guru on what size etc you need for your set up. We got quotes from many different places and he was the best with it costing only $50 to get 2 panels and a regulator shipped from Tasmania to Mt Isa. Even with freight they still came in about $150 cheaper than anyone else.
With our 2 panels and batteries we have sat in the one place (bush) for 8 days without having any problems. We run a 80L Waeco fridge/freezer on about 4 (not sure what temp that makes it as it's the old Waeco - but enough to keep the meat frozen) and a 40L Waeco on just fridge for drinks, 1 LED light (about 60 small bulbs), 1 fluoro light and an 150W invertor for hair clippers. Laptop was also ran about an hour or so a day. We found the 2 panels could be overkill but if we had TV reception or internet reception we would use alot more power. Rather have too much than not enough.
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Reply By: Mainey (WA) - Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 18:11

Monday, Jul 09, 2007 at 18:11
You will find quality Solar panels are actually "rated" so the answer is not a 'gues' but can be factually proven, unless the manufacturer allready knows the test result will be well below the accepted level of panels presently rated and on the market.
If it's not presently rated, why buy it???

(a) In no special order; Sunpower, Sharp & Kyocera
(b) In no special order; Sunpower, Sharp & Kyocera
(d) somewhere close to where you live, someone who will assist you with installation of the panel if required and of course the Solar REGULATOR, which is possibly more important to battery charging than the quality of the panel.
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