Hand Brake Light on dashboard

Submitted: Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 12:33
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The light on the dashboard for the handbrake has been staying on in the mornings for about 20 minutes. Even though the handbrake is fully off.
According to the handbook it could also mean stuffed brake fluid causing brake failure or spongy brake pedal. I don't have any of these problems.

Could it be that the lubrication in the handbrake freezing causing it to stick until it warms up?

I haven't had this problem until the last few days with sub to near zero temps in Sydney.

Any Ideas.

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Reply By: Pnut (cns) - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 12:48

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 12:48
Kev
I have had exactly the same thing happen recently when things got cool (i.e sub 10deg!) up here. I have a Triton also (prev model to yours). Can only put it down to possible condenation in brake fluid res. Problem goes away when things warm up (ambient temp, not car). I'm going to flush Brake fluid - not been done for about 3yrs. How old is your brake fluid? Replacing this may fix it?

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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 13:24

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 13:24
Mark,

The fluid is about 3 years old from memory so it is probably due for a flush and replacement.

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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 13:27

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 13:27
Toyotas will do this when the brake fluid level gets down a little. Top it up and see if it goes away.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 13:33

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 13:33
Phil,

I just double checked and the fluid level is sitting at the max fill line so who knows.

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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy- Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 13:43

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 13:43
Hi Kev,
sometimes the vinal cover around the lever can cause the lever to sit up a smidge even when you think it is down. After a couple of kays it wiggles itself out of the way. My 78 series was bad for this.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 14:06

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 14:06
Dave,

I tried that but it seems that once the temp outside increases the light goes out, it is very frustrating.

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Reply By: DIO - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 14:16

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 14:16
As you haven't stated the make of vehicle that you're experiencing the problem with it's a little difficult to be very specific. I have experienced problems with handbrake switches (very often identical to the type found on doors that activate the interior light - nothing very sophisticated about them) the return spring can break or become dislodged, the spring and or slide mechanism can become clogged with fluff and or crud, the switch may require lubrication, the switch may have become loose on its mounting and be shorting out against a metal component (giving you a false reading) or because it is loose, simply not disengaging correctly. A bit of maintenance may be all that's required.
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 14:33

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 14:33
Its the one in my Rig Profile :)

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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 15:41

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 15:41
Tried replacing the switch, wiring ???

Sounds very much like you got an electrical problem in the switch, or the wiring from the switch, to me..
I could be wrong.

Even go as far as to say that a bit of electrical contact cleaner may do the trick

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Reply By: jeffwa - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 16:01

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 16:01
It could also be condensation or water that has got into the sensor on the brake fluid reseviour, perhaps remove it and spray some CRC or similar in the sensor and replace.
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Follow Up By: Ian from Thermoguard Instruments - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 17:39

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 17:39
Very bad idea to mix any sort of mineral oil or derivative with brake fluid. Recommend you don't let CRC or anything like that get into your fluid reservoir. But it wouldn't hurt to try to wash the level sensor out with clean brake fluid when replacing that three-year+ old brake fluid.
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Follow Up By: jeffwa - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 18:15

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 18:15
Sorry my bad, I meant CRC on the electrical connector, not the sensor in the reseviour!
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Reply By: fisho64 - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 16:15

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 16:15
Jeff I think the problem is with the handbrake light not the brake operation light.

Kev-first thing I would probably do is jack it up one morning and see if the handbrake is actually dragging. At least you will know if any damage or wear is being caused by dragging brakes.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 16:16

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 16:16
Kev
Ow ya goin'
Maybe you could do what I did yesterday to fix the Timing Belt replace warning light in my Troopy , it wouldn't go off when I pressed the little switch in the dash , been on for 1700 klm so I pulled the dash out, and snipped the bugger out , found the remains of the switch rattleing about within,

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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 19:03

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 19:03
Don't repair it Kev, it might be the only light available when you next visit your home state. 20 Minutes would be ample time to have a good look at all there is to see up there!! LOL
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Follow Up By: Kev M (NSW) - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 19:19

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 19:19
Barry,

If that's the case then it would beacon beckoning me home to the best state in Australia, the one and only Queensland, winners of the last 2 state of origin series.

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Reply By: Brian T (VIC) - Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 23:54

Monday, Jul 16, 2007 at 23:54
A bit of CRC on the switch mechanism under the lever seemed to do the job on our other work Triton. Like any plunger type switches found in most vehicles especially 4bys, they need a bit of lubrication after a few years. Particularly if you let Mitsubishi "service" them....
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Reply By: Kev M (NSW) - Tuesday, Jul 17, 2007 at 06:43

Tuesday, Jul 17, 2007 at 06:43
Bloody thing it didn't do it this morning, I'll still change the brake fluid and lube the switch up anyway.

Thanks everyone for the ideas.

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