how hard a drive is the savvanah way?
Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 13:08
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rookie4wdr
Hi my wife and myself are hoping to drive from
sydney to
cairns to
broome, in our swb 1992 pajero and our trailer.in august 08 for a few months
my questions are being a novice 4wder , expect a few drives at kurnell 4wd
park. would a car this old(over 200000kms on it ) handle the conditions, its petrol.
and is basic 4wd knowledge get us through?
obviously i will have the car in its best condition mechanically before we leave , but just looking for some advice from people that may have done this trip and been in a similar car.
thanks if you can be off assistance
Ben
Reply By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 13:49
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 13:49
(I'm talking
Cairns to
Darwin - I haven't done the western half)
It's not a hard 4WD as such - in the dry you could probably do it in 2WD. It can be a bit corrugated in patches and have some soft patches but nothing too bad. There are a few river crossings which _should_ be low at that time of year - but go carefully. I think there is only one fuel stop now between
Normanton and
Borroloola which may be an issue?
It is remote country out there and when I did it a few years ago I didn't see many other vehicles at all so if you need assistance you may be in trouble -
HF radio, sat phone, EPIRB recommended.
On a 15 year
old car ensure
suspension, steering gear etc are all in _excellent_ condition - lots cheaper to replace at home than out there :)
It's a good drive, I recommend it.
This is a useful website:
Site Link
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: CoopersRed - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 16:19
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 16:19
Brian,
it's Wollogarang that is closed. Hell's
Gate is open or at least it was when I was there two years ago.
Cheers Wolf
www.bush-sweepers.org
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Follow Up By: Rip64 - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 16:56
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 16:56
Thanks Wolf,
My mistake, (typing before thinking) - or maybe I just can't wait to be there ?
Brian
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 17:01
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 17:01
Remember to watch where you
bush camp if you're near
water - those friendly lizards may want to play :)
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Rip64 - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 17:10
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 17:10
Mike,
what's
the tip when
bush camping in this area ? How far away is far enough ?or is it a site specific thing, as
water is a great attraction when choosing a
camp.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 17:47
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 17:47
Crocs cannot climb so if the river bank is a straight 2m+ above the waterline you should be OK however watch there is not a low spot 50m away where they could wander up to say hello.
I found some lovely possible
bush camps on the north side of that road close to
water but discretion took over and I camped on the south side.
Distance? Hard to say... 30km? :) probably 200m?
Got a firearm? 12
bore shotgun with solid slugs will give a croc something to think about. But with just two barrels try not to miss :)
At night consider a battery powered passive infra-red detector (Dick Smith, Jaycar) or two pointed in the direction you think a croc might come from - don't know if it will work but it can't do any harm.
Just exercise common sense and all will be
well :)
Mike Harding
PS. Take some Band Aids, just in case :)
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Reply By: JimDi - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 14:34
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 14:34
Ben,
Its been 3yrs since I was last that way. From
Derby along the Gibb we just took our time and had no probs. About 59k out from
Borroloola we experienced what I suspected was going to be an electrical problem so turned back and went along the bitumen. If in doubt at any time it is quite a pleasant drive from
Cairns to
Broome via the black top. Plenty of road side camps and travellers to yarn to.
Enjoy your trip.
Jim Di
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Reply By: ozwasp - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 16:43
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 16:43
Whenever I've travelled, I've only seen travellers in late model vehicles in remote areas - unless they are backpackers and thus have no idea.
The roads are pretty easy and as mentioned you don't need a 4wd, however where a late model vehicle comes into its own is in reliability. Sure an
old car will get you to work and back day in day out, but when your doing 300 - 500km a day, it brings in a whole new ball game.
Basically your taking a risk and crossing your fingers with an older car. The question is what would you do if you have major mechanically problems in a remote area??
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 19:54
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 19:54
Hi ozwasp,
I am just trying to think how crazy I was when I took my 320000km car/caravan and 8 month pregnant wife and 4yo son out to
Birdsville and south from there???? just a week ago (new baby due out on the 2nd August).
I think km's on the speedo is not as significant as your knowledge of the service history on the vehicle (
mine is a one owner and in good nick). Basically if you have had the truck for ages and have looked after it, you should know if it is up to the task at hand. I agree that you must consider the worst case scenario but if you have done all the prep work properly things should be fine in the Paj. Just my opinion of course.
Been a long time since I was up in the Gulf country so I won't comment on current road conditions as I don't know.
To the original poster, travel safe and don't miss
Lawn Hill in the Gulf.
Regards, Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 20:13
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 20:13
I think a major factor is how mechanically inclined one is and how capable of doing "get you going" repairs. If a broken throttle cable is something you would have no idea how to "jerry rig" then you, old cars and the bush are probably not a good combination.
otoh most breakdowns are not catastrophic - blown engine etc and, if you know what you're doing can frequently be fixed
well enough (perhaps several times :) to get you to mechanical help.
Then again; there is always a risk... which is probably a part of why we do what we do? :)
Mike Harding
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 17:17
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 17:17
Ben, we did the Western End of your proposed trip last year. From
Broome across as far as near
Doomadgee.
As said before, the only issues on that road are corrugations. Just drive to the conditions and you will be fine. If the corrugations are bad, drop your tyre pressure by 10PSI for a smoother ride.
Hell's
Gate was open last year, but I understand it has since closed. This link is to an ABC story on the closure.
Site Link
Might be worth doing a Google and calling them to be sure.
If Hell's
Gate is closed, you have a 480 (odd) KM run from
Burketown to
Borroloola with no fuel.
If you have the time, it is
well worth doing a side trip down to
Lawn Hill National Park. Turn South West of
Doomadgee. Canoeing (hire) on
the Gorge is just fantastic.
Depending on the route you take, you will probably come out at
Daly Waters or
Mataranka. If
Daly Waters, make sure you stay at the
camp ground at the Pub. Great stop. Barra and / or steak dinner. Great entertainment.
Have a great trip.
Norm C
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Follow Up By: bigmark - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 20:35
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 20:35
HELLS
GATE IS CLOSED.
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Reply By: RustyHelen - Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 21:42
Wednesday, Jul 18, 2007 at 21:42
When we went through there was fuel at
Doomadgee. It is a km or two off the road and the fuel was at a
shop around the back of town. All locked up so we had to get someone from the
shop to unlock and fill us. Much cheaper than Hells
Gate at the time.
We were going W>E and had planned
Burketown but the road was just too bad (still probably worse than anywhere we have travelled except the 30 km into
Well 33 on the Canning) so we turned off at
Doomadgee and went down to
Lawn Hill that way. Great diversion through the station.
Rusty
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Reply By: rookie4wdr - Thursday, Jul 19, 2007 at 08:57
Thursday, Jul 19, 2007 at 08:57
thanks for all the info,i will bare it all in mind and definately try to gather some more 4wd and mechanical skills before our trip.
thanks
Ben.
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