CDMA

Hi Just got a SMS message from telstra saying they are closing
the CDMA system on 28-1-2008.
Brian
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 19:03

Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 19:03
Very interesting Brian.

That is in line with Telstra's more recent plan to shut CDMA down before the original February timeframe.

I don't care now, cause I replaced my CDMA with a NextG phone two days ago.

I wonder though, if this will drive the cost of NextG phones up, or down as more people change over.
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Follow Up By: T-Ribby - Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 19:26

Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 19:26
Another indicator is the introduction of pre-paid NextG phones which are now available.

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T.R.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 19:26

Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 19:26
My Aunt who lives out of town got one saying 18 july 2008

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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 20:52

Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 20:52
Maybe they are doing it bit by bit? Or area by area>

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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 21:25

Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 21:25
Brian ,
I got the message tonight - same date as you . I rang and got a really honest guy who told me or hinted that if I needed country coverage I should hang on to my CDMA as long as possible , to allow them to install more next G coverage in out of the way areas .
Cheers ,
Willie
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (VIC) - Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 21:45

Friday, Aug 17, 2007 at 21:45
Amazing that - you rang the Telstra help line and managed to get hold of an honest guy!! Not only honest but obviously part of the senior executive of Telstra that just happened to tell you what know one else knows!
I want that number!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (WA) - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 11:18

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 11:18
Willie,
I think that's what I will do hang on as long as possible.
Telstra want $589 RRP to buy a new Mobile then put you on a 24 month plan,
That is for the Nokia 6120. Might even give up owning a mobile.
Have a camcorder,ipod,digital camera so don't need all the bell,s and
whistle,s on a phone
Brian
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 16:32

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 16:32
Brian,

Not quite correct matey.

Telstra will sell you the 6120 outright for $549 and you can select any length term contract you wish, (mine was 12 months) or you can choose to pay the phone out over the term of a contract. At 24 months thats an extra $23 per month thereabouts.

I think you could even choose a prepaid account if you wish, but with the $20/month contract, you get some really good savings.

Buying the phone elsewhere then taking up the $20 contract is another option but with the "personalized" flash software in each vendors phone, I wasn't game to take the risk.
Bill


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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 17:58

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 17:58
Brian ,
I'm like you , I just want a phone that has a cradle for recharging and a connection for an external aerial - I don't need all the other crap .
Cheers ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 18:37

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 18:37
Crikey, talk about Muddy Water; more like Sludge.
The Bride got (I can't say "bought") a Nokia 6300 today through 'Allphones'. rrp is$369 (cf Nokia 6120 @ rrp$449, outright.)
Deal is 24 months @ $20/month, $50 """Free""" calls/month.
BUT, can cancel contract after 6 months, and use any carrier: but she still pays $7/month for 18 months.

Eh????????.....So what glaringly obvious trap was I blind to? Why, for example, would a company request more $ up front, than on (effectively), time payment?

Like a lot of others here (AND Francis Whiting), we just wanted a phone. P.H.O.N.E. You hear the voice , Executives??

a PHONE!!
Enough (for now)
Jeff.
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Reply By: Member - Peter H (WA) - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 01:06

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 01:06
I wouldnt worry to much. The Telecommunications Ombudsman has stated that under no circumstances will CDMA be cut off until at least the Next G service is as good if not better that cdma. He only said that the other day. The way Telstra is going hell might freeze over first.

Peter
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Reply By: stocky - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 23:48

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 23:48
1) The signal level in most areas (not counting small number of sites with equipment issues!) is HIGHER than CDMA signal - can be PROVEN with a spec analyser quite easily

2) Issue is with HANDSETS - A CDMA phone works on a narrow-ish band of frequencies 824-894MHz so its antenna is OPTIMISED for that frequency. A typical NextG phone has an antenna that has to cover a number of bands, generally from approx 850-2100Mhz so it is NOT optimised for any one frequency band - i.e. it is a COMPROMISE and hence performance is not as good!

3) DONT BUY THE NOKIA IF YOU WANT COUNTRY COVERAGE! IT IS ONE OF THE WORST FRINGE AREA PERFORMERS IF NOT THE WORST

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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 12:15

Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 12:15
Leave it as late as possible to swap over - its all marketing hype from Telstra - they are just trying to boost the volume figures for the uptake of G3 - anyway, as others have hinted, the Federal Minister for elecoms, Helen Coonan, was on the TV the other week threatening Telstra with legislation that will prevent CDMA going unless she (anf other heavies) are convinced that G3 has the same rural coverage - the ombudsman has had lots of complaints from the outer areas - hell - it might be here for years yet.
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 15:28

Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 15:28
Hi all
What's the difference between 3G and NextG???
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Follow Up By: George_M - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 15:51

Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 15:51
G'day Signman

3G is a 2100 megahertz UMTS mobile service originally marketed by Hutchinsons (spelling?) in Australia. The brand name was "3". Telstra also markets this service under the "3G" brand.

Next G is a 850 megahertz UMTS service provided exclusively by Telstra, and is Telstra's CDMA replacement. Some (all?) of Telstra's Next G handsets also process the normal GSM frequencies, although at a lower speed than Next G.

Just to confuse matters, UMTS is sometimes known as WCDMA.

I suspect that 3G services will only ever be available in the major centres of population. Next G has quite wide coverage. Last week I travelled from Melbourne to Mildura, Lake Mungo, Menindie, Broken Hill and Tibooburra, and the Next G coverage was far better that the CDMA coverage I experienced last year.

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Reply By: tdcockers - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:36

Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:36
I got my text message on the cdma moments ago. I had been waiting for the 6120c to become widely available, now I am not sure. I don't do a great deal of travelling away from civilisation, but it is a comfort having the coverage, given you only need to be 3 hours from Brisbane to lose everything else.

I have an external antenna that can cover both the 850 and 2100 bands, the trick seems to be finding a decent phone that can use it...
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