Treg Hitch Question (& Cadney Homestead question)

Submitted: Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 09:06
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I have picked up my Cavalier Camper (very happy) and have my Insurance (CIL), but I now have another question.

The Holden Frontera has a rear door mounted Spare tyre that sticks out about 2mm too far meaning that its fiddly / tight (read awkward..!!!) to getting the Treg pin in and out. Whilst its manageable and a little manipulation from below helps it come out, I am wondering if there is anything wrong with running with the Treg pin upside down..?????

Any thoughts would be most appreciated..

Cheers
Shane

(PS Thanks to all who have answered my questions over the last few months.. My partner and I leave Adelaide for Yulara next Tuesday and will be up there for 12 months. Driving from Morphett Vale to Booleroo Centre then to Cadney Homestead and then to Ayers Rock. Nothing overly exciting compared to some of the treks described on this site but we are looking forward to it..!!!)

PPS - What is accomodation / facilities like at Cadney Homestead and is it busy at the moment..???
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Reply By: Olcoolone (SA) - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 09:46

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 09:46
I don't think there would be a problem with putting the pin in upside down, the pin does nothing for up and down strenght.

The pin is only in there to stop the trailer coupling pulling away from the reciever on the car.

The shear strenght will not be effected at all, the only downsides I can see is the "T" part may sit down to close to the road if you go off roading and get bent by rocks etc or if the retaining clip broke or dislodged the pin will fall out where you may be a bit luckier the other way.

A strong piece of advice.....get a spare pin and 2 retainer clips and carry it in your car...I lost one down at Milang and had to come back to our workshop to make a new one (about 4 hrs lost), I tried heeps of trailer places but nobody had them.

The other thing is get a good quality grade 5 or higher padlock with a 6mm shaft and drill the hole out in the "T" pin where the retainer clip goes and when you are away fron the trailer put the pin in the trailer coupling and padlock it......a bit of security that doesn't cost much.(This is also good for when the trailer is connected to the car and left unattendered.)

Never leave the pin and retainer clip unattendered...they get stolen or lost.

Always cross you trailer chains aswell,if the trailer comes away it will olny drop onto the chains as they are crossed and not into the road.

Regards Richard

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Reply By: Andrew from Vivid Adventures - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 09:53

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 09:53
I think I would have reservations... I lost the retaining spring clip on one occasion out bush and the pin started working up before I noticed. If it had been upside down it would have been lost and the trailer would have been floating.
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Follow Up By: Stu050 - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:37

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:37
But on the bright side, you would have known about it a lot sooner.
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 23:03

Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 23:03
I had the same problem as Andrew, had it been upside down it would have all gone pear shaped.

Cheers Steve.
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Reply By: Axel [ the real one ] - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:22

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:22
Change to an orac coupling , same articulation but pin horizontal rather than vertical would be a safer propisition.
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Follow Up By: Olcoolone (SA) - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 11:24

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 11:24
Alot harder to get bits for.

Regards Richard
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 16:20

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 16:20
What bits, they hardly have any.

The only replaceable parts are a standard pin & 'R' clip, plus a couple of nylon bushes that anybody could turn up in an emergency.
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 11:43

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 11:43
I don't think having the pin upside down would be a problem. If you are worried about losing the pin you could wire in the retaining clip with a bit of tie wire.

I have not stayed overnight at Cadney but we did stop there for lunch. It is miles and away the cleanest roadhouse I have ever stopped at. I would imagine the accomodation would be good too.

Duncs
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Reply By: Member - Bruce and Anne - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 12:54

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 12:54
I have the same problem, spare wheel on the tail gate as well. But instead of a pin I use a long barrel lock, so this would probably be a lot safer so I think I will give it a try to.
Cheers Bruce.
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Reply By: howie - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 13:35

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 13:35
do not like the idea of the pin upside down.
is there space to drill a second hole thru the pin to put in a 2nd retaining clip as backup if you must?
next answer is easy. as a long time owner of a cavalier with treg, i insist you get a spare treg pin.
spare pins can be got from most good caravan part shops and while you are there, look at some of the locks.
i got a lockable pin that was supposed to be for a hayman reece hitch, fits snugly in the treg hole when not towing.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 19:32

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 19:32
Howie ,
I have had two brands of lockable pin on my Treg and now I am not game to use them in case I get somewhere and cannot remove them ( as happened at home )
Cheers ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 22:39

Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 22:39
Willie, I had the same thing happen with mine. Little bit of vibration and dust and it was locked good and proper!
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Reply By: DIO - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 14:35

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 14:35
Obtain a high tensile bolt, nut and suitable washer. Use bolt to replace supplied pin. Insert bolt into coupling, place washer and do up nut until just 'snug' then back off a fraction. Mark position of nut on bolt, remove all from coupling, place nut onto bolt and do up until you reach the mark you made previousy. Drill a hole through nut and bolt (about 3/8ths" or 5 - 6mm should be adeqaute). Make or acquire a safety pin (I use a heavy gauge coat hanger) place through hole in nut and bolt, close and you have a very secure means of securing the coupling. Saves having to buy another Treg pin and is far more secure.
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Follow Up By: Olcoolone (SA) - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 16:02

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 16:02
Hey DIO, I saw you the other day with a dress hanging from under you car, you must of forgot to take it off the coat hanger before you used it!

Regards Richard
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Reply By: Shaker - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 16:24

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 16:24
Cadney Homestead is good, we had an excellent meal in the licensed restaurant section & the camping is OK if you don't mind setting up your CT on fine gravel which you'll soon get used to if you are heading to the Outback.
They also have cabins, which are more like 'dongers'.
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Reply By: GerryP - Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 18:34

Saturday, Aug 18, 2007 at 18:34
Hey, is camping out the side of Cadney still free? Last time we went past there all the 'free camping' signs had the 'free' bit painted over. I reckon they'll lose a lot of passing campers if they have. The loss of income from the free camp was well and truly offset by the money spent at Happy Hour and the meal afterwards!
Gerry
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Reply By: Member - Barry M (NSW) - Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 08:54

Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 08:54
You can buy a lockable Treg Pin on this site for very little money,
It could be used upside down & you then also have a spare.
I wouldnt trust those little wire clips anyway. cheers...oldbaz.
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Reply By: A J - Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 16:54

Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 16:54
If you have a H/R type tow bar - consider obtaining another slide which is longer than the existing slide.
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 23:09

Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 23:09
Great Idea.

Steve.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 17:46

Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 at 17:46
Hi Shane, the only other thing I can think of is if you have a hayman reese type tongue is take the treg coupling off it, turn the tongue upside down then put treg coupling back on again. Reinsert the tongue (unless of coure its already like it) BUT if your trailer is level then I wouldnt do this other wise it will be a bit lower at the front but if the front is up a bit anyway this would lower to level. I had to do this to my hilux as it was alot higher then the prado so buy me turning the tongue upside down it leveled the trailer. Hope you know what I mean. Luckily I dont have any issues with the rear door or tyre on the prado. I dont like the idea of the pin upside down at least if you did happen to lose the locking clip from underneath there is less chance of the pin jumping wright out, maybe !!. Regards Steve
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