GPS Mouse
Submitted: Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 17:41
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Member - Kim M (VIC)
After the hiding I copped last week, I'm dreading the replies to this one....
Does anyone use a GPS mouse in conjunction with a laptop, running TrackRanger or Oziexplorer software. What are the good and bad points?
In addition, what are your thoughts on a GPS mouse with Bluetooth connectivity?
Be gentle guys.
Regards
Kim
Reply By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 17:58
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 17:58
I use a GPS mouse with my laptop and Ozi. It just plugs into a spare USB port. It works fine and is a lot better than when I had my etrex plugged in.
I don't know about the bluetooth ones but if they need a power cord you mught as
well just get the USB ones.
Cheers
Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:08
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:08
Thanks Pete
What brand are you using?
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:21
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:21
Twig Solutions TS-GPM008 brought on ebay for about $50.
Cheers
Pete
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:08
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:08
Not yet I don't but will be shortly. A few different sorts available on ebay including a solar powered unit that sits on the dash with track logging facility. To add a question to yours Kim does the number of channels make that much difference on a GPS?
Will be interested to hear the replies.
Cheers Craig.........
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:46
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:46
Hi Crackles,
I have both types usb and bluetooth, my bluetooth is from the states and has 32ch and its very very good, the other is 12 channel and it works for as much as I commonly need. I have compared them and the 32 is far quicker at finding sats from startup and I have never lost signal with the 32ch I have occassionally with the 12channel.
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Follow Up By: howie - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 19:42
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 19:42
not an expert on gps, but apparently there are only 28 sats and only 24 of them are usually active.
given our earthly position, only about half of these are probably available at any one time.
therefore a 12 channel gps is very adequate.
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Follow Up By: howie - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 20:53
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 20:53
what i meant to say as
well, i doubt if the fact that a gps has 32 or 12 channels makes it any better at losing signals, it depends on the quality of the antenae and probably the chipset.
my recent buy, a bluetooth BT-338 is looking at 10 sats (8 at 50% strength) sat here in the house where my garmin III would be complaining.
however, connect the external antenae to the garmin in the car and it wins handsdown.
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Reply By: Olcoolone (SA) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:17
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:17
We use a Garmin GPS18 USB, most GPS mice a good but we went with the Garmin because we also run City Navigator 7 and to be able to unlock the the maps you have to use a Garmin GPS.
We also use Ozi Explorer, Tracks 4 Australia and the UBD city and country maps.
Regards Richard
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Reply By: Fnqt2 - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:20
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:20
Gday kim, i use a haicom HI-204III GPS mouse connected to a haicom HI-403BT bluetooth cube for my dell x51 pda running oziexplorer ce with hema and natmap ruster
cape york maps loaded works a treat good points i sapose its small and aero dynamic for the top of the cab, simple connectivity, bad points i sapose could be knocked off the top of the cab by a tree branch or some thing.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:35
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:35
Fnqt2
Having the unit knocked off the roof was my reason for asking about Bluetooth.
Many thanks
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: mike w (WA) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 23:28
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 23:28
No need to worry if you do not put it on the roof! I have a Haicom HI-204III connected to my PDA which sits under neath the dash mat 100% of the time. I have had no issue with reception, even within overgrown canopy
forrest.
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Reply By: Alan H (Narangba QLD) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:37
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 18:37
Kim
I use a Haicom HI-204III-USB GPS mouse with a laptop and it works very
well. It was supposed to be magnetic but it never held
well on the roof but I found it works fine just sitting on the dash against the windscreen.
It is very quick to start up and seems to work in fairly dense vegetation.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 19:37
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 19:37
Kim,
I use a Globalsat BT-338 Bluetooth GPS that talks to a Dell PDA, running both OziExplorer and CoPilot.
The GPS is only a little larger than a matchbox and works faultlessly. If, for some reason it loses connectivity with the host, it will shut down within ten minutes. Also comes with a leather case that can be attached to your belt for walking type functionality. Initial satellite connect time is 45 secs or thereabouts and mere seconds thereafter. Although connection of an external aerial is possible and the aerial is an optional accessory, I haven't found the need for it within my vehicle.
No negatives with the GPS at all, just the PDA which only lasts a few short hours from its internal battery.
The GPS comes with a 12 volt power pack which runs and charges the GPS from a vehicle ciggy socket, but the battery lasts 17 hours continuous operation between charges anyway.
At $163 from the ExploreOz
shop, I consider it a practical and functional device.
It's portability and standalone use without cables sets it above a GPS mouse that plugs into a USB port. A further adaptor or interface cable would be required to connect to a PDA which doesn't have a standard sized USB socket.
Definitely worth consideration Kim.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 19:40
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 19:40
Oh, just for a bit of balance.
As mentioned above, for a PDA there is no debate IMHO.
For a Laptop, a GPS mouse may still be a good solution. The Laptop will already have a standard USB port and unless it has a built-in bluetooth receiver, you would need to plug an external one into one of the USB ports anyway.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 19:55
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 19:55
Sand Man
Thanks for that, I'll have a look at it. A member (above) asked about the number of channels. Any comment on this?
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 21:11
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 21:11
I use a "no name" GPS-101 mouse (20ch) connected to an old PDA. The PDA does'nt have Bluetooth so cables are necessary. Don't have to worry about PDA battery life as cables include ciggy charger connection.
Since PDA/GPS are only used in vehicle, mobility etc is not a consideration.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 22:00
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 22:00
Kim,
The BT-338 has 20 channels, all in view.
Generally I see at least 8, usually 10 or more satellites when checking with the GPSinfo utility.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 22:02
Monday, Aug 20, 2007 at 22:02
Thanks for that, and all the other good advice received.
Regards
Kim
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Follow Up By: howie - Tuesday, Aug 21, 2007 at 22:59
Tuesday, Aug 21, 2007 at 22:59
sandman,
i've got one of those BT-338 and agree it's a great little unit.
you mention "Although connection of an external aerial is possible and the aerial is an optional accessory"
my unit has no option to connect an antenae, is there 2 types?
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 22, 2007 at 17:04
Wednesday, Aug 22, 2007 at 17:04
Whoops,
Thanks Howie. I was wrong. Sorry to mislead anyone.
There is no connection on the BT-338 for an external Aerial, but it doesn't need it.
I got mixed up with the Haicom 4in 1 Holder with included bluetooth GPS receiver. The holder is great for the PDA, amplifying the voice prompts for easy listening of CoPilot or TomTom and providing power to the PDA when connected to it. But I could not get the GPS to work over bluetooth link, only via the physical connection where it plugs into the top of the holder.
Anyway it was this animal I got mixed up with and in fact the reason I bought the BT-338 was to provide the means of use away from the vehicle's power supply.
Sorry for the untruth I uttered.
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Reply By: Shawsie (Bris) - Wednesday, Aug 22, 2007 at 14:56
Wednesday, Aug 22, 2007 at 14:56
Hi kim, i use the Twig Solutions TS-GPM008 mouse with my PDA sat in a haicom cradle and the mouse plugs into it also. When going bush I put the mouse on the roof (mag base) and also use tom tom with the mouse on the dash. I don't have any problems with this setup and am very happy with it. i also have a HP blootooth mouse with I have mixed results with and do not consider it reliable. You have to charge the blootooth mouse up at some stage anyway. I also have a USB cable for the mouse, but this can have mixed results used on a computer as sometimes it 'forgets' where the mouse is (on the usb port). A serial connection is best, but not often on modern computers these days especially laptops. in answer to your question tho a gps mouse would be very reliable.
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