Fuel availability, Mt. Dare, New Crown

Submitted: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 at 22:28
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I have searched the archives and trek notes, but have not been able to find if fuel is available at Mt. Dare and New Crown. I plan to be travelling north from Oodnadatta to Alice, via Dalhousie, Mt. Dare, New Crown, Old Andado and Santa Teresa. I don't have long range tanks, but get an average of 550kms from a tank. I believe fuel is available at Finke, but didn't intend going that way.
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Reply By: Stolzy - Tuesday, May 13, 2003 at 22:55

Tuesday, May 13, 2003 at 22:55
There is fuel at Mt Dare, not sure about the others.
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Follow Up By: Gypsy Helen - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 14:17

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 14:17
Thanks Stolzy.
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Reply By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 07:33

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 07:33
Mt dare does have fuel they advertise in 4x4 australia give them a call on
08 8670 7835 web site www.mtdare.com.au . We had a trip through there a few years ago and got flooded out and had to stay for 3 days . The them caretakers Bob and Marion looked after us very well .
All the best
EricCape York Connections
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Follow Up By: Gypsy Helen - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 14:19

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 14:19
Thanks Eric. I will check the web site, and thanks for the phone no.
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Reply By: Member -BJ (Sydney) - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 11:46

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 11:46
Mt Dare has diesel but check if you want unleaded. At Birdsville last year people were told they had no unleaded but 1 tosser reckond they wuold have some for him wouldn't listen not suprised as he had no radio , tyres at 40 psi little water or supplies off they headed west , wonder how far they got before someone had to get them out of trouble.
Bob Wish i was still here / Gulf in July
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Follow Up By: Gypsy Helen - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 14:22

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 14:22
Thanks BJ. I use diesel. I have a UHF, and have done a bit of outback stuff. What should I have my tyres at for that track?
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Follow Up By: Member -BJ (Sydney) - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 15:30

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 15:30
Gypsy Helen, We didn't go to Mnt Dare we went East across Simpson from Dalhousie but i'd say mid to low 20"s i did simpson on 22 till big red no trouble.
Wish i was still here / Gulf in July
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Reply By: Member - Peter [SA] - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 12:27

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 12:27
diesel at Mt. Dare was $1.45 lt 2 weeks ago.
Cheers Peter
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Follow Up By: Gypsy Helen - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 14:24

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 14:24
Thanks Peter. I expected prices would be similar to that. How were the road conditions?
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter [SA] - Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 03:26

Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 03:26
Tracks were fine, caution at washaways and dry creek crossings. Simpson Desert was easy also, just isolated. Big Red was good fun. Had to let tyres down to 15psi, then had no probs with big red. Diversion around Spring Creek Delta was well signposted.
Cheers Peter
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Follow Up By: Member -Gypsy Helen - Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 14:42

Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 14:42
Ta Peter. Sounds like you had fun. I travel on my own, so won't be going across the Simpson. I'm heading north via Old Andado and Santa Teresa to Alice.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter [SA] - Friday, May 16, 2003 at 13:35

Friday, May 16, 2003 at 13:35
dont let being on your own stop you, my wife and i travelled on our own. this time of year always someone coming along track at least daily if you have any major probs. took a sat phone for emergencies and UHF for closer communication. The route you are planning sounds good also, plenty to see whereever you go. hope you enjoy your trip.
Cheers Peter
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Follow Up By: Member -Gypsy Helen - Saturday, May 17, 2003 at 15:24

Saturday, May 17, 2003 at 15:24
Yep, Peter, I have UHF, can change a wheel, and am pretty sensible. At this time of the year there should be plenty of fellow travellers out there. I also plan to go across the Plenty and Donoghue and then Mt. Isa, Cloncurry, Long Reach and back through Windorah, Innamincka and the Strez. Being on my own doesn't hold me back.
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Reply By: Member - Willem- Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 14:28

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 14:28
There have always been fuel supplies at New Crown Station. No fuel at Old Andado or Santa Theresa.Cheers, Willem
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Reply By: Patsy - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 16:53

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 16:53
There is also ULP at Mt. Dare. We have a deisel but travelled the French Line West to East last year with friends who had ULP and filled up their Gerry Cans at Mt Dare. Our friends did it in a Suzuki Vitrara V6. From Mt Dare to Birdsville, he used 3 Gerry Cans as well as his tank full. 114 litres in all for 490kms. We used 96 litres of Deisel for the same distance plus a few extra kms for every time we had to reverse up to pull him over a dune.
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Reply By: Nissan Man - Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 21:02

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 21:02
Yeah there is Fuel at Mt Dare, however we had avery unplesant experience with the owners.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willem- Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 21:19

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 at 21:19
Intersting that you should say that. My mate from Alice Springs went for a drive a month ago and arrived at Mt Dare just on dark. Went and paid his dues to a bloke behind the counter. Was invited around to join the bar but felt tired after tea and turned in. Around 1am in the morning he was woken up by someone shining a torch in his face. It was the mistress of Mt Dare. "Did you pay your camp fees", she demanded." Too many people try to sneak in after dark"!!! Good grief! How to win friends and influence people. My mate was pretty miffed but unfortunately he is a reserved type of person and left quietly the following morning. Just as well I wasn't there 'cause I don't suffer fools lightly and would have protracted the argument. I have never stayed at Mt Dare as I prefer to camp out in the bush.Cheers, Willem
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Follow Up By: Member -Gypsy Helen - Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 14:45

Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 14:45
Mmmmm...... Thanks for the warning, guys.
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 17:48

Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 17:48
Willem how long ago was that . as I said 2 years ago Bob and Marion could not do enought to help us . I had heard the prevous owners were like that.
All the best
Eric
www.capeyorkconnections .com.au
07 4094 1745
02 42 94 34 96Cape York Connections
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Follow Up By: Member - Willem- Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 20:04

Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 20:04
Eric,

My mate rang me about a month to six weeks ago and the incedent had happened a couple of weeks before. I must say that I am only repeating a tale. Maybe the Auntie was having a bad hair day!!! Maybe my mate has left something out of the tale!! Incidentally, my mate is a Tour Operator and the signwriting on his vehicle is very visible.

I knew the previous owners, the Hellyers, and they were always very helpful and I am not sure how long ago the changeover took place.Cheers, Willem
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Reply By: Nissan Man - Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 19:28

Thursday, May 15, 2003 at 19:28
With the attitude I got I was not interested in finding out names, but we were there around september with another vehicle. I was suprised at the attitude as everywhere else we have been (Cape York and Central Australia) the station owners always been delightful to talk to and sometimes have a beer with. Next time I cross the simpson I will ensure I have enough fuel to never set foot on Mt Dare station again!

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