Permit System for Aboriginal Land

From what I've seen in the media it was a proposal and hasn't yet been finalsed. The aboriginal land council's, etc are putting in objections which have to be considered before any final decision.

The abolishion of the permits will open up their land to everyone and their dog. At least is you had to go to the effort of getting a permit it made some think twice.

When I lived in the NT there was never a drama getting a permit. The system allowed a means of funding the upkeep of camping areas, a permament ranger staff and maintenance of the roads.

I think we should keep it.

I agree totally, but just wondered where we stood right now. I'm planning a trip into APY land next year and have been lucky enough to get to know someone from there who is going to help us get the permits etc. But have said that if they abolish the current system, I still feel it appropriate that the traditional owners have knowedge of our visit. Plus if we do get into trouble, they would be more likely to be willing to help us. :-)
Thanks for the info, that explains why I couldn't find much about it.
cheers
Tony

The permit system for access to Aboriginal Land is not being abolished.

The Feds are talking about abolishing the permit system for access to Aboriginal Communities - I think only in the NT, but that is different from saying that they were abolishing it altogether.

HTH
Andrew who finds that getting permits is not so hard when you can talk to a real person! Just finding that person is the hard bit.

Ive only had to get permits once but it was simple and painless.
The best thing about the permit system is it requires all people travelling through there to be registered somewhere.

It goes a long way to keeping the booze and drug runners out of the aboriginal communities.

I dont think its been abolished anywhere yet. If the elders wish it to remain in place ,Im all for it.

Yep - the Feds can only impose their agenda on the NT at present - the states will probably stay as is on this topic.

There was a recent post where someone took more than 3 months to get their permit.

Hardly painless.

Permits should not be required to travel the "arterial" roads even if they cross Aboriginal land. Those roads are common use roads, they are built and paid for and maintained by the Australian taxpayer.

Elsewhere in the country, roads are public. when new ones are built, the Gov't will acquire part or all of your farm/residential block whether you like it or not. This indicates to me that the Australian land is actually owned by the Country, no matter whose name is on the title.

I don't need a permit to drive from Melbourne to Sydney, even though I drive over land which used to belong to someone before the freeway was built.

I shouldn't need a permit for any other road my taxes have built either.

I don't remember seeing a reason for little john changing/abolishing the permit system?

Anyway, I agree that a permit should not be needed to use a 'road' but there are good reasons to seek consent from the traditional owners in most circumstances. So I'll be behaving as though nothing has changed.

Just heard on the news John Howard is going out to Handys for lunch tommorrow? I hope hes got a permit....more to the point, have you Handy?
What time do you want us there?
We'd hate to be late! Hey Dusty 2

If I understand what they've been saying over the past few weeks, it was more for the abolition of permits to enter the actual communities. Aboriginal land would still require permits to travel through but in doing so, you would be able to attend communities for fuel, food, etc which until now have been cloced. The idea being, you would pump cash into the local economy.Well have to wait and see what happens I suppose.

Mick.

The legislation to abolish permits to aboriginal land in the NT, has been passed in parliament.

This 500 page document was not read by Mal Brough or NT senator Nigel Scullion or NT federal MP Dave Tollner, and perhaps many others before voting on it.

You can only travel from point of entry to a community and or Gov building, you can stray no more than 30mts either side of the road and any land that is owned buy an individual is now private property.

As at October 1st Kakadu will be alcohol free with the exemption of Cooinda, South Alligator motor inn and Jabiru township.

Cheers Steve.

election year, bleep and wind to keep the peasants happy, nothin will change in the end

Cryoman from here is out there at moment, he had to get 10 permits all up for his trek he is on at moment.

Hey Truckster
I'm interested in how your mate got permission to enter APY Lands. I've just been refused, even with the help of a local.
Cheers
Tony