In car navigation
Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 05, 2007 at 21:17
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Andrew(WA)
People, I'm just wondering if there is a 'common'
well known everyday model In Car Nav system that is renowned as being the best 'all round' unit to get....Navman or Tom Tom etc etc.
I'm in the market for one but I'm just an everyday user who doesn't want anything complicated. Something for city and country use and if it can take me across the Simpson one day...that's a bonus.
It must have voice navigation.
Any one with experience on the pro's and cons of any models would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Reply By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Wednesday, Sep 05, 2007 at 21:23
Wednesday, Sep 05, 2007 at 21:23
Garmin Nuvi range with T4A added software will have all the SD tracks, it wont give voice guidance in the SD but has the moving maps
Simpson Desert MapMy GPS Website
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 21:37
Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 21:37
Thanks Doug
Your advice and web site was fantastic. I bought the Garmin 660 and loving it.
One last question for the guru...the nuvi 660 has the ability to have music downloaded to it, which I have done but the internal memory only holds about 10 songs...the unit has an SD card slot...can music be put onto these SD cards and used in the unit or am I off track!
If so...how do I do it?
Thanks again
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 22:27
Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 22:27
Andrew
They are a great unit , Don't put MP3s on the units internal memory, Get a 2gb SD card and put then and T4A on it , What I have done also is go to the memory folder and open the Audio Book folder and delete the Demo's , same for the MP3 folder, and just leave the folders there empty , That make more room for POIs, be carful noy yo delete any other files, I also done a backup of the Garmin files onto the hard drive of the PC
The best way to get music to the SD card is take it out and insert it into the slot on the PC make a folder on the card , call it MP3 and put the music files in that
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 01:06
Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 01:06
I've stuck all the MP3 music I have onto a spare card...working a treat! but I will have to buy the T4A maps later...
When I do...does it come on a CD Rom or what? I guess I would just copy from the CD to the SD card..Correct?...I'm new to this stuff..bloody awesome.
Cheers Doug.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 05, 2007 at 21:58
Wednesday, Sep 05, 2007 at 21:58
Just to expand on Doug's comments a little, only the navigation software for metropolitan areas use voice navigation in conjunction with visual navigation. Applications such as TomTom, CoPilot, etc. use this.
Countrywide navigation uses applications such as OziExplorer, TrackRanger, or as Doug has stated, Garmin with T4A maps, (or shonky maps) and while these have moving map capability displaying your current location as you drive, they don't have voice guidance.
let's face it, voice guidance is hardly necessary "out the back" where "multiple choice" is not an issue.
So, in short, whatever hardware & software solution you choose, it will need two applications. One for city navigation and one for Country navigation. This will require a memory card with two sets of mapping software installed.
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Wednesday, Sep 05, 2007 at 22:28
Wednesday, Sep 05, 2007 at 22:28
Thanks SandMan
That's something I didn't know right there...two applications!
I live in country WA Southwest. Are you saying if I buy a unit off the shelf with up to date mapping for Australia...It will only be of use in the city?
If I want nav help around
Albany for instance, I would have to buy a separate application for WA country areas?
I find it all a bit confusing because I was looking at a Tom Tom unit in Katanning (300k's from
Perth) today...when asked for directions to a location in
Perth, it showed the current location with the major hwy route to
Perth...I can't imagine the store having anything other the standard mapping program so What am I missing?...or is it simply that the unit must have had Trackranger or something similar installed?
many thanks.
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Follow Up By: Skippy In The GU - Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 00:53
Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 00:53
If you buy a PDA type GPS with Tom Tom installed you can also install OziexplorerCe which then can add the Raster 250K or 50k map sor Hema desert maps some can have both programs working at the same time. Ipac Rx5965 ? is a good one to use.
There is also a asus model people are saying are good too. Otherwise buy a cheap GPS with a map and run Shonkymaps and buy a TomTom unit.
Trackranger don't have programs that run on Pda's
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 09:01
Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 09:01
Andrew,
Most of the units such as TomTom will be fine for the metropolitan and some country areas of Australia, but as the maps concentrate on the more highly detailed areas, they don't provide coverage to the more remote areas.
Now, the problem with most of these units is that they use a "proprietary" application to operate and adding something like OziExplorer or other such programs that run on the Windows Mobile operating system becomes impossible.
Because a PDA or LapTop do run Windows, there is a version of OziExplorer and TomTom, etc., that will run on them, BUT....in all honesty, a PDA type solution is not for everyone. Sometimes a bit of fiddling and knowledge of bloody things computerised becomes necessary, especially in establishing connection to a GPS mouse, dongle, or the like. Have I lost you yet:-)
Now, I'm not overly familiar with the Garmin product, but Doug can espouse on the wonders of this device and it may be what you need as everything is sort of "built-in", even though it's of a proprietary nature, (i.e. it won't run on anything else) and with the addition of Tracks for Australia, or Shonky Maps, you get Australia wide coverage, allbeit without voice guidance.
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Reply By: Ian-Rodeo - Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 13:41
Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 13:41
Andrew
I faced the same problems as you in deciding what to buy. There is an overload of information out there. I took Doug T's advice and bought a Garmin Nuvi 660. Best thing I have bought for ages and couldn't be happier. Have just come back from South WA and found the Nuvi 660 was excellent. Spent some days in
Albany and Bunbury and found it impossible to get lost. It's a great help when driving through a strange town to know where all the turns are. Had coverage 100% of the time, even going from
Hyden to
Norseman direct. Every street and back road I travelled was covered by the Nuvi 660. Although I have the T4A SD card, I didn't use it as the software that comes with the Garmin Nuvi 660 was more that adequate.
Regards.
Ian
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 14:28
Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 14:28
That's the type of info I've been looking for Ian, thanks very much.
Given that the 660 had all the regional info you required for the trip you did, is there any need to get T4A card in your opinion?...if so....what extra will you get out of it and is it worth the extra $$$
many thanks
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Skippy In The GU - Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 17:30
Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 17:30
Andrew,
The Mapsource Version 7 is the same program and comes from the same place as Tom Tom Version 6 does, I think nearly all Auto Routing GPS's come from Sensis(Where is) .All except Megellan, not sure about Route 66
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Reply By: Ian-Rodeo - Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 15:00
Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 15:00
Andrew
It's really a personal thing. You won't go wrong by buying a Garmin Nuvi 660. I have found the existing Software that comes with the unit is more than adequate for travelling around highways, secondary roads and a lot of minor roads in most of Australia. Incidentally it has the street names of all small towns I've been through. Should you at some time decide to go across the Simpson, CSR etc. then the T4A is
well worth having. My suggestion would be to buy the 660 first, learn how to use it's features and look at the T4A software at a later date if needed. Voice prompts will not work with the T4A on the Nuvi 660.
This is only a personal opinion, but hope it may be of some help to you.
With regards.
Ian
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 15:03
Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 15:03
Thanks very much for your help Ian.
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Follow Up By: Andrew(WA) - Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 21:41
Tuesday, Sep 25, 2007 at 21:41
I bought the nuvi 660...fantastic, love it.
The kids think it's some kind of magic. It provides real time entertainment even when we know where we're going!
happy travels..
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 16:59
Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 16:59
Just been going a Google search on in car navigation.
Garmin NUVI660 seems to be around $900. Tom Tom One XL around $600 and Tom Tom One New Edition around $500.
You probably get what you pay for, but the reviews on the Tom Tom's all seem pretty good.
One review on the NUVI660 was as follows:
My issue is with the navigation not the unit. The 660 is a brilliant unit, so easy and quick to use.
BUT
I sold my Gamin Street Pilot because I was having navigation issues and was told the new software upgrades I was buying were probably the issue.
So I buy a new Garmin 660. What a mistake. It would tell me to turn left from one street into another. Trouble was, the street was a bridge going over the road, not an
intersection.
There were many more navigation blunders but GME say they get the maps from Sensis.
I am going to borrow a Navman and run them side by side and if the Navman does not make the same mistakes, then I will be taking the Garmin back for a refund.
But if they can get over this issue, it's an absolute brilliant unit.
Anyone had this sort of experience with the 660? or with any other unit?
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 02:29
Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 02:29
Norm
My simple answer to the magazine report is , they don't know how to use it , I have a 660 and it is 99% perfect as far I'm concerned, It is only a computer and as we all know ....(
well that's debatable) a computer has to be used correctly, same applies to a GPS,
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 17:31
Thursday, Sep 06, 2007 at 17:31
Andrew, check out this site for reviews by the 'experts'. Comments from real life users are in some ways more valuable, but masses of information available here on heaps of diferent units.
GPS Magazine Reviews
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 02:44
Wednesday, Sep 26, 2007 at 02:44
Norm
Not a bad looking site, I might be able to make use of that
Doug
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