What to buy???

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We are looking at doing a trip around Australia with our three children (ages 10, 7 & 2). We need suggestions on what type of off-road camper trailer would be suitable. We would prefer for everyone to be up off the ground and are willing to spend up to $20000. Has anyone got any ideas?
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:48

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:48
Have a look at the Camprite Camper Trailer. Made in W.A.

One or two ExplorOz members have given positive feedback.

http://www.campritecampers.com.au/
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Follow Up By: Trace & Paul - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:30

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:30
Thanks Sand Man! I just had a quick look and they could be a goer...
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Reply By: Markymark - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:57

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 19:57
We've had the old Jayco type wind-up campers for years and have loved. After a trip to Central Aust this year and a bit on the Oodnadatta, we knew we had to buy something that was dust proof and wouldn't fall to bits on the rough roads because we're about to undertake a 'half-lap' of Australia next year for 6 months with kids (6 & 9). I've been looking at campers for years and always liked the Trak Shaks because we didn't have to put the kids in bunks and all 4 of us can sleep off the ground. They are also huge inside due to their unique way of opening so in bad weather we won't be packed in like sardines.

A few weeks ago we bought a 2002 model and we can't wait to take it for a test run in a few weeks. Look there's plenty of campers out there and I know they all have good/bad points, but for space and sleeping everyone off the ground, the Trak Shak is hard to beat as a true family camper.

Just be wary of newer models as they are now made in China (not always a bad thing) but their canvas and general quality is supposedly not as good as the made in Aust ones.

Cheers,

Mark.
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Follow Up By: Trace & Paul - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:39

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:39
The Jayco Swan is something that we have looked at and all of the sales people have assured us that they will handle the tougher conditions but that is why we have posted the question.... we want the real facts. We will definitely give the Trak Shak a look. Thanks for the advice.
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Follow Up By: Markymark - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:10

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:10
We had a Jayco Finch and then a Windsor Sunwagon, both mid-80's models. Most of our travelling up till now has been mostly bitumen with a little bit of dirt, like to the beach & the Murray River. For this both were great.

On our trip this year another family with us had a newer Jayco (mid 90's) on road model. Travelling from Marla to Oodnadatta, both campers were fine as the road was quite good. However after Oodnadatta heading to William Creek, the road was pretty rough. We had dropped tyre pressures on vehicles & campers but were still getting shaked to bits. In no time a wheel cover had popped off (to be expected I guess) and in stopping to get it & chuck the other in the camper, noticed the camper door handle had fallen off. We opened both campers and the amount of dust inside looked like we were at the beach! Our Sunwagon had independent trailing arm suspension with coil springs & shockers so we thought it would handle rough roads easily, not so. Headed back to Oodnadatta and took the road out to Coober Pedy. Stopped half way at Mount Barry station to camp for night, spent ages cleaning out dust, it was everywhere and we taped the whole roof, door and fridge vents before heading off next day.

The taping did the trick in keeping out most dust, but you wouldn't want to be taping up your camper every day (lifting roof, running fridge etc.)

Perhaps the new ones have better dust sealing but here's the catch; The Jayco Off-Road models do have a stronger A-frame & more ground clearance than the on-road models, but the rest is built the same. Cupboards are stapled together like cheap furniture and in general the whole interior is designed from the ground-up for on-road use. High clearance and bits of chequer plating don't make an off-road camper!

Don't get me wrong, the Jayco's have their place, we loved ours, but for beating around the bush you may be better in something designed with that in mind.

Cheers,

Mark.
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Reply By: Jimbo Vic - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:33

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:33
I would strongly recommend a Jayco Camper Trailer. Go for one of the larger ones, Eagle or Hawk as a minimum.

Ma and Pa get the Q/S bed, two of the nippers share the double and the third offspring sleeps on the couch OR the drop down table.

Whatever you choose, expect at least 30 minutes set up time, possibly an hour, for each stop. The amount of stuff you need to get in and out is immense, especially with three nippers. Storage is always an issue regardless of which brand/type you buy.

Have a great trip.

Cheers,

Jim
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Follow Up By: Trace & Paul - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:49

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 20:49
We have looked at the Swan. We love the layout and the little bit of storage available but are a bit concerned about how it will handle the rougher conditions such as the corrugated roads and the dust.

Have you got any ideas on that?
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Follow Up By: Jimbo Vic - Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:08

Friday, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:08
They're not a true Off Road camper such as Kimberley or the likes, but neither are they as dear.

As long as you are not planning to do anything too severe they will be OK.

A bit of corrugation work, taken at moderate speeds with the tyre pressure dropped should be fine.

Don't expect miracles, just use some common sense and all will be fine.

If you plan to belt the living daylights out of your Camper, Jayco is NOT the way to go.
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Reply By: A J - Saturday, Sep 08, 2007 at 02:33

Saturday, Sep 08, 2007 at 02:33
Trace & Paul - we have had a number of Jayco vans and they all let dust in so we switched to Swagman Off Raod camper - built in WA - did not cost much to freight to NSW - tows well - up off the ground - great campertrailer
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Follow Up By: Trace & Paul - Sunday, Sep 09, 2007 at 18:50

Sunday, Sep 09, 2007 at 18:50
Hey A J,

We gave the Swagman guys a ring. They sound promising.
Thanks for the info.
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Saturday, Sep 08, 2007 at 12:21

Saturday, Sep 08, 2007 at 12:21
I used to have a Windsor Rapid Offroad van but currently have a Camprite camper trailer. Both of these are good off-road, but there is no comparison once you get past corrugated tracks and into goat-track territory. The Camprite will go as far (further?) than the tow vehicle while the Windsor simply becomes too big and physically cannot fit and becomes a boat anchor.

But both have their places, the Camprite gives a much better "camping" feeling, you cook outside and generally only use the inside to sleep and get changed. The Windsor is much more of a typical van and you tend to do most things inside like cook, washup and then tend to sit inside of an evening.

While you can easily setup camp chairs outside under the awning, it was something that just didn't happen as often whereas we always do that with the Camprite.

However, if going around Australia for a 3month plus trip I would be very reluctant to take the Camprite compared to the Windsor. Setting up every night, while only a 5 minute job without the awning, does become tedious after a while. With the Windsor, you simply open the bedends and its done. Plus the Windsor has more storage space that is easily accessable.

But the main reason is the weather. If it is wet (and in a trip around AUS you WILL get rained on at some stage) you have to cook outside and this then means the awning is required and that is tedious for a quick overnight stop.

When I was looking for the Campervan setup, I looked at everything on the market and IMHO nothing compares to the Windsor Rapid. While all Jayco's etc are good I just find the features of the Windsor Rapid to be far and away the best compromise.

I have since sold my Windsor Rapid but would not hesitate to have taken it around AUS. Its just that my style of camping is more long weekends and weeklong affairs and for this the Camprite suits me much better.

If you do decide a camper trailer is for you, then I have found the Camprite to suit my needs extremely well. All sleep off the ground (very important to me), it has a very quick setup and is the roomiest on the market for a hardfloor.

Cheers

Captain
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Follow Up By: Jimbo Vic - Sunday, Sep 09, 2007 at 16:04

Sunday, Sep 09, 2007 at 16:04
If only the Rapid came with a Q/S bed it would be, IMHO, the best thing on the market.
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Follow Up By: Trace & Paul - Sunday, Sep 09, 2007 at 19:08

Sunday, Sep 09, 2007 at 19:08
You have given us some really valuable information.
We are torn between a wind-up camper or a camper trailer.
The setting up thing is a concern. I imagine at first it would be ok, but after a few months it would be a hassle. We haven't really any set period of time that we are considering, it may be for six months or it could end up being two years..... we will see where the roads lead us! With that in mind, a few home comforts such as indoor cooking etc would be nice, but we do intend to do some off-road stuff, so thats where the camper would be more practical.
The choices are endless!!!
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Reply By: bookend@ - Saturday, Sep 08, 2007 at 20:58

Saturday, Sep 08, 2007 at 20:58
Hi Trace and Paul,
I agree with most of whats been said. Really depends on what you intend to do in terms of where you want to take it. As far as Jaycos go, we looked at them and ended up going for the Goldstream. To me they seemed stronger. All the wind up campers are really limited in how much "off road" work they can do. Partly because of size. In the end you'll just prefer a camper and go for it. We love our Goldstream. We have 4 kids and were keen on it as the interior, the ply, the cupboards, table, everything seemed that bit more robust than the jayco. The foam in the seats and matresses seemed thicker and more comfortable. If you intend to mostly stay on the bitumen, you don't need an offroad camper which will be cheaper again. Take a tent and do some over night trips off road.

Very envious ..... good luck shopping and planning the trip
Greg
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Follow Up By: Trace & Paul - Sunday, Sep 09, 2007 at 18:58

Sunday, Sep 09, 2007 at 18:58
Thanks Greg,

It seems the choices are never ending!

We have spotted some used Goldstreams available on the net but hadn't really looked into them. But seeing as though you have four kids and find it practical, we will be looking into them further.

Thanks for taking the time to share your advice with us.
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Reply By: yowie - Sunday, Sep 09, 2007 at 15:48

Sunday, Sep 09, 2007 at 15:48
I have had a Trak Shak for 9 years now it has been around Australia (37500km Trip ), up center to the gulf via desert tracks several times & it is still as good as new. All i can say both me and my wife think its the best money we ever spent. they are cheap and more importantly they are comparatively lite. They have heaps of storage as well. 9 jerries and 2 gas bottles. The box form construction method they use is incredibly strong whilst still keeping the weight down.
Phil
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Follow Up By: Trace & Paul - Sunday, Sep 09, 2007 at 19:21

Sunday, Sep 09, 2007 at 19:21
Hi Phil,

Thanks for the feedback.
We are going to the Penrith caravan and camping show this weekend and it is lucky for us that trak shak have a site there!
After your positive comments and those of Mark from previous comments, trak shak is definetly on top of our list!
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