DID YOU KNOW THIS ? NEXT G

Which is exactly why Telstra want to shut down CDMA ASAP so they can ramp up the power on NextG......... or so they keep saying!

Will have to wait and see what difference (if any) it makes.

Muddy

C................R...................A.....................P...just another of the phone fairy tale stories.

Big Dog



Was at Wugularr recently and got excellent reception with next G.

I have no complaints re next G.




Tjilpi

Next G,,,,, what crap, we still have to go outside the house, to talk properly on my TELSTRA 3G phone. Stay inside and talk and it slowly dies.

And the same story, is repeated all over country Oz.

I hope you are right Muddy, about turning up the power, it could be good, but only time will tell

As far as I am concerned its just another money making venture for TELSTRA.

Cheers
Bucky

I wouldn't believe it Bigdog.

Why - firstly Next-G equipment is being installed onto the same tower and comms huts as CDMA as you do not need to build a new tower due to there being plenty of room for new equipment and Telstra are not going to spend over $200k erecting a new tower if there is one already there.

Secondly systems are designed with appropriate filtering fitted (as required by the ACMA) and channel designation (allocated by the ACMA after an engineering analysis) so that there sufficient channel seperation and no interference from other channels.

Towers frequently have several users on them and the only reason why you would get interference is because the ACMA didn't do their job properly, the installer of the equipment did it wrong (highly unlikely due to the checks required to bring equipment online), someone else on the tower / close by does not have appropriate filtering (such as a council, SES, amature club etc) or there is something that is mixing the various signals and creating an interfering harmonic (we recently had a piece of rusty guttering that when wet would mix FM Broadcast signals and interfere with the local councils VHF repeater).

How do I know this? For a couple of reasons, we do repairs and audits for Vodafone on their sites, repairs to Optus equipment when they fail, and we are contracted to install Next-G into 100 sites throughout central Queensland and that is just the cellular sites.

I have heard a lot of stories and theories on the CDMA / Next-G saga and have experienced the difference in reception between the 2 whilst travelling through CQ (carrying both phones). I can say that there are coverage differences between them but as a whole, it 'Should' be a good system when it is fully operational.

There is a legal requirement to abide by the regulations that are laid out by the ACMA and if the above story were true, they would be all over it in a flash. Not only that, but I dare say the Telecommunications Ombudsman wouldn't be far behind.

Makes for a good yarn though.

Regards
David

Had a laugh a couple of weeks ago. My Vodaphone had service but a mates next G had nothing while another had reception with his CDMA. Downstream from Yarrawonga.

Check out post 49407. There was a bit of info covered here as to why performance is as it is at the moment (ie not fulll power yet, poorly performing phones etc)

I have never been a great fan of privatizing Telstra but if it had to happen all the equipment should have been left in the hands of the government ie. Telecom and Telstra and all the others rent from them. At the moment Telstra appears to be very bossy to the detriment of the general public and the other operators.
Also does anybody know if and when a next g phone will be out for just making phone calls as I don't want a camera as I already have one I don't want a video player as I already have one. Just my point of view

Name the town so we can ring someone to find out first hand - assuming they have reception :-)))))

Other than that sounds like a good furphy to me.

Karl

Hi BigDog

Can't comment on any particular towers , but that senario
is technically very possible.

Central to the performance of CDMA type systems is power control.
It is much more critical than with GSM.

Early on in the development of these systems one strong phone
could reduce the range of others in a network and cause dropouts
to those in weak signal areas when switched on.

This happens a lot less these days as the phones and towers
adjust there power up to 1000 times a second to keep
the network in balance.

When two different systems are close together this control
becomes more difficult and at the extremes can break down.

Robin Miller

One of the biggest loads of c r a p is / was / continues to be the so called "privatisation" of government owned companies /infrasructure ,,, We ,each and everyone owned telstra /telecom and now we pay for a Few shareholders and obscene salaries and a so called performance bonus for 3rd rate service ,