Nissan 4.8 YES or NO ?

Submitted: Thursday, Sep 27, 2007 at 18:34
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Iam looking at a 4.8 petrol Nissan patrol 2002 wagon done 80th and its been on gas for 12mths, I need to tow my 23ft jaco so what can you tell me , good move or not, going around Oz, Thanks Frank
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Reply By: Axel [ the real one ] - Thursday, Sep 27, 2007 at 18:50

Thursday, Sep 27, 2007 at 18:50
Yes or No ?? gas is not available everywhere , so it all depends on where you realy want to go , around Oz is a very big statement ,all major places have gas , get off the black stuff and it gets a little harder to find and I wou;ld hate to think of the $ cost per klm per lt of a 4.8 towing a 23fter on petrol .,,
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Follow Up By: 2-GEE,s - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:34

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:34
Thanks Axel, at this stage I dontintend getting off or to far off the black stuff and Ive spoke to a guy who tells me that gas is available most places so Iam going to contact boral and get details on locations and I still have petrol, Thanks mate
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Reply By: Member - Vincent A M (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 27, 2007 at 19:49

Thursday, Sep 27, 2007 at 19:49
The 4.8 will tow your van well & the fuel will be about 18-22ltrs per 100klms towing if you take care & that's about the same as a 4.2 diesel towing the same size van, But if you don't take care it will be closer to 30+ ltrs per 100klms, but it is nice to be able to climb the hills without thinking that you will be going into low range

When in a remote areas you will have to forget the gas

I have the 4.2d & a freind has the 4.8p & towing simular weights he is normally only 2-4ltrs more than me over the trip,but he does have wait for me to catch up & when on gas hes cost $ is half

I was just in NT & just running about on the hwy with that 130klm speed limit he's truck gets better consuption than mine

i would still have the desiel but i would not be put off the 4.8 hope its some help
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Follow Up By: 2-GEE,s - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:38

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:38
Thanks Vincent for all your info, I have just found a 02 4.8 done 82th with all the bells and wistles and I need to make a decission as we wany to be on the road by late Oct,thanks again
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Reply By: Vicar - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:48

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:48
If money is no option, go the 4.8 and throw on a long range fuel tank when gas isn't available. The amount of money you need to throw at the 4.2 to perform like the 4.8 would pay for the extra fuel anyway.
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Follow Up By: 2-GEE,s - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:42

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:42
Hi Vicar, is there room for an extra fuel tank and gas as well, what about the weight factor, and money is a slight preblem, Thanks mate
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Follow Up By: ferris - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 21:34

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 21:34
You can get long range tanks for both the main and sub-tank, so it shouldn't be a problem. Have a chat to your friendly ARB or TJM man. Both will happily take your money from you.
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Reply By: Chambo - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:35

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:35
I have a GQ with a duel/fuel 4.5 in it. We have just done a 7k trip up through Canarvon Gorge, Cania Gorge, and as far inland to Rubyvale then across to Fraser Island. We averaged 26/100 and had to use 2.5 tank of petrol which wasn't too bad. I have my doubts on getting 18-22/100 as I don't think the 4.8 is that much better than the 4.5. I was also only towing a Jayco Eagle Outback which is a bit lighter and smaller than your van. I must admit though, I do not drive it for economy. I did some calculations between gas and diesel, and would have used about $100 more on diesel over that distance. Unless you are intending to go off the beaten track you should be ok with with duel fuel. I don't know what the prices of gas are over in the West but the most we paid was about 82 cpl and that was in Walgett if I remember correctly. The cost of gas in some places certainly raises some eyebrows. Cheers, Chambo
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Follow Up By: 2-GEE,s - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:47

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:47
Well Chambo, the millage is nothing to wright home about is it, so I think I should just do it any way, the truk I have found has all the gear, low K,s, every thing, Thanks for your help
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 21:23

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 21:23
145lt replacement main tank available. Also a sub tank replacement available but it depends on where the gas tank is and how much room it takes up as to whether these will fit??

Cheers, Trevor.
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Reply By: Cornelius - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 13:59

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 13:59
Despite the rumours, the 4.8 is a great vehicle. Be nice on the right boot and the consumption will be nice to you ...... Work out the diff in price for diesel and ULP ......the diesel blokes only fool themselves if they think they are better off ........I have a 2002 4.8 and will not swap it for any diesel ...........
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Follow Up By: 2-GEE,s - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:49

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:49
Hi Cornelius, do you have gas, on your truck that is
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 15:23

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 15:23
Hi 2-Gees

You don't say if auto manual , but no issue with performance anyway. Even today no other vehicle can match it from that point of view, inculding a brand new one as they have 5kw less.

Gas looks great - personnaly I have stayed away from it for range reasons , however most of those I know of with it have been happy.

Car on gas depends on the quality of the installation and a couple have been quite unhappy and unloaded there cars after expensive valve train sues.

I would not buy one unless the head/valves had been specifically checked and were ok.


Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: 2-GEE,s - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:55

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:55
Hi Robin, yes its an auto, Ido have gas on my rodeo and the performance is the same but I get 100 k less per tank than petrol so at this stage I think I will go for duel fuel patrol that Ive found as it has every thing included, Thanks mate
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Reply By: Jimbo Vic - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:52

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:52
The 4.8 on LPG is the gruntiest, torqueist thing dollar for dollar at the pump that is available.

My folks tow a 22 foot Jayco with the works with their 4.8 on LPG and it is superb.

No diesel can get close to the grunt or the low cost to run.

Don't even consider anything else.
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Follow Up By: 2-GEE,s - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:59

Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:59
Hey Jimbo thanks for the call, could you ask the folks what sort of millage are gettingon both fuels, just qurious. Thanks mate
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Reply By: Bill from Custom Boat Loaders- Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 16:20

Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 16:20
We are currently touring Oz in a 2004 4.8lt Patrol on Petrol and gas with a boat on top.
We have abt. 80lt tank for petrol and 95 lts of gas (its a sequential injection system) and it pulls the 22' heavily laden Compass caravan with ease We get around 4.5ks to the litre on petrol and abt. 3.7 - 4ks litre on gas, and there is no difference in performance.

We've done nearly 30,000 ks since March over all terrains - we've come over the Nullabore, over the mountains from Nowra thru Kangaroo Valley, Borroloola to Burketown on gravel roads and it's never missed a beat!

The only time we've had to carry petrol was in remote areas -Borroloola to Burketown because Hells Gates is closed - its just a matter of planning ahead - go for it !

Di
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Follow Up By: 2-GEE,s - Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 20:35

Sunday, Sep 30, 2007 at 20:35
G,day Bill, thanks for getting back to me, I do have 2 questions for you. #1 how much has the dearest gas cost per Lt. #2 how much extra petrol did you have to carry as Hells Gate being closed. Iam also looking at a 4.5 landcruiser and putting the seqential sys on it, Having trouble making a dission, Thanks Frank
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Follow Up By: Bill from Custom Boat Loaders- Tuesday, Oct 02, 2007 at 18:01

Tuesday, Oct 02, 2007 at 18:01
Sorry for late reply.



Normanton would have to be the dearest - had gas around $1.40 only about .30c less that unleaded! We carried an extra 80 but didn’t even use 60lts.



Hope this helps.



Bill



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Follow Up By: 2-GEE,s - Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:54

Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:54
Thanks Bill, did you carry the extra petol in jerry cans or did you have a long range fuel tank fitted
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Follow Up By: Bill from Custom Boat Loaders- Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 12:29

Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 12:29
Had 2 jerry cans in holders on back of van plus the 20lt outboard tank and 20lt container on top of the boat loader - if you want to email me privately at maneyd at iinet dot net dot au I can send a photo to you of the set up.

cheers

Dian
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