One good reason why
Submitted: Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:02
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Member - Doug T (Qld)
Here is a very good reason why drivers should have that 2 hour break and not to push the limits to far, especially non professional drivers , The Truch involved was one I used to drive , I was still with the same company at the time of this incident and my truck is the one further down the
parking bay, I arrived some 3 hours later .
ACCIDENT
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Reply By: Wizard1 - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:12
Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:12
This sort of incident has very little to do with having a break every 2 hours. I would suggest that at that time of the morning the driver may have suffered too much fatigue and a 2 hour break would have made little difference.
It is the foolish and selfish belief that people have about jumping in a car and driving enormous distances in the middle of then night when they are normally asleep especially when they usually only drive 60 minutes a day to and from work.
Long weekends and school holidays are famous for these types of accidents because leaving on your holiday after a long day at work is much better than getting there a day late or not if you die on the way due to fatigue.
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Reply By: Kev M - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:19
Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:19
I now know why I
park a fair way into the
parking bays.
Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:22
Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:22
Kev
Yep ...same here, although he said the bay was full when he and the other company truck got there , thats' why it's at the end of the bay, If he were 1 foot further on eh.... but thats fate ,
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Follow Up By: Kev M - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:25
Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:25
That road is a PITA to drive and they should make the
parking bays further off the main road with bunding to protect parked vehicle from this happening.
Kev
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Follow Up By: Wizard1 - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:43
Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:43
The road isn't too bad if it we're for idiots like this who drive all night and fall asleep at the wheel! I guess we should be grateful that the driver was the only fatality and no other innocent motorist or truckie.
Not unlike a stretch of the Bruce Hwy near Gympie that apparently "causes" accidents. Yet when they do happen seems to be in the wet and speed involved, but I'm sure its the road's fault.
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Follow Up By: Kev M - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:50
Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:50
Every time I drive on the Pacific I seem to be overtaken by little P plate cars that should be sticking to their required speed.
I personally like driving at night, as the kids sleep and don't annoy me LOL. If I get tired I stop, I don't care where it is (except
Walgett maybe). If the boss is in the car she drives for a little until I'm right to continue.
It is too easy but so many people don't take enough time to get somewhere.
Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 09:32
Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 09:32
Of course he could have been on their way home after working all night. I don't know the lead up so want comment of judge.
Suffice to say its a tragedy, no matter how it happened and will effect many people, seen and unseen.
I also now know my limit that's why I stop often to take photo's have a stretch or cuppa and I end up only doing around 300 k a day. I'd rather add time onto my break than rush or push my limits.
In a convoy its easier and I can do more Ks than just by myself.
Enjoy life .... less distance more breaks :)
Brian
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Reply By: Member - Christopher P (NSW) - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 13:18
Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 13:18
I hear you all, i drive all night after work, but unlike the majority i do now my own limits and very aware if my body says sleep i sleep on the side of road, and not worried if i arrived two days late. If the Fiance is in the car she drives and we take turns but i watch her like a hawk!!!! I'm the professional driver out of both of us, but she is the better driver!!!
So be safe not sorry????
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 14:00
Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 14:00
Good point Doug.
Other thing I am aware of is conditioning.
Most professional and semi-professional drivers get into a routine and know their limits, they get conditioned to driving longer distances.
Every one else thinks if the professional drivers can drive long distances, any one can. It is not that easy.
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 21:41
Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 21:41
that is agood point to John. Before I started my current job 450ks was a long drive, now I do 750ks and then will spend 3or 4 hours in the yard on my return
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Steve - Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 15:23
Friday, Sep 28, 2007 at 15:23
Jeez, he wouldn't've known much about that.
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Reply By: bigcol - Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 07:27
Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 07:27
Who knows , he might have been on his way home after a late night out.
When i was driving for a living it was nothing to do 10 or 12 hours behind the wheel.
Since i've given that up about 6 is my limit before the signs of fatigue start kicking in
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 08:06
Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 08:06
bigcol
Lazy bugger, I done many days with up to 14/15 hours with an odd 18hrs in the 80s , but like you now mate we're buggered , 6 to 8 with maybe a nanny nap somewhere parked under the shade of a tree,
Doug
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Reply By: Kumunara (NT) - Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 16:15
Saturday, Sep 29, 2007 at 16:15
Good advice
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Reply By:- Monday, Oct 01, 2007 at 09:22
Monday, Oct 01, 2007 at 09:22
In my opinion suggestions about “power nap” (i.e. have a short sleep of 15 min or so) is *ABSOLUTELY* ridiculous. Once one get relaxed and especially put some food in stomach it became very difficult to concentrate again, as least for some time. Having 2 hours break in long distance driving even more silly – in this way you would drive 3 days from
Melbourne to
Sydney. As far as my experience goes driver does not get tired because of driving itself, but rather eyes became tired from continuous concentration. Thus only one remedy remains – stay less on the road. Thus speed is key issue – faster speed is *SAFER* here, because it means less time behind the
wheels. And while it is obvious that heaps of our freeway with two lines only cannot be “speed-up”, I truly can not understand why freeways like Hume when we have divided two lines (or even more) each way road cannot be driven at say 150 km/hr. FYI all Europe does this. When I was in NT (times when that have no speed limit) I have discovered that most comfortable speed about 160-170 km/hr.
My thought came from my personal experience – I have drove from
Melbourne to
Gold Coast (1870km) and back 5 times, and all of them was done in one hit with only one break for more then 10 min in middle of the day for light lunch when we stay for 20-40 min. And once I was only driver in both ways. My advise for those who like to repeat this is simple – have *PLENTY* of sleep day before, do not drive immediately after work and do not eat anything heavy during trip.
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Monday, Oct 01, 2007 at 09:29
Monday, Oct 01, 2007 at 09:29
I agree about the speed issue , = less time behind the wheel. less time to become fatigued, I can remember when I had a 69 Cortina GT , when travelling fast the concentration was full on, means no gawkin' about with eyes of the road, but try telling this to the idiots in office, Ah no ....might miss out on some revenue , stuff the lives...they're there for revenue.
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