I cannt believe its really that bad..

Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 23:13
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Got the new version phone for CDMA - is it 3G or next g?? - what ever...
Anyway out at Wee Jasper the other day and reception is as bad as what its made out to be from what ive heard....the old phone would have 2 bars of reception without being in the cradle and almost full in it...but the new one - LG TU550 on telstra didnt get a bar - must admit havent got a car kit fitted yet....but by going off what my mate from bourke way says - who has lost a good lot of stock sales because of it - its nasty and a hell of a lot worse than cdma...

whats the go - i thought it was suppose to be better!!

I want my money back!!! Is it possible to go back to the shop or call telstra and tell them - hey - it doesnt work!!!

Laura
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Reply By: Dave from P7OFFROAD Accredited Driver Training - Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 23:16

Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 23:16
My Lg is better than the CDMA it replaced!
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Follow Up By: Angler - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 13:36

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 13:36
Check out the touringoz forum about ZTE phones.

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Follow Up By: Angler - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 13:37

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 13:37
try again

try again oz forum
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 23:19

Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 23:19
Were you diving or driving at Wee Jasper
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Follow Up By: Diver1 - Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 23:33

Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 23:33
hello again lucy...

sorry about before - eyes hey - and im only 25!!

diving??? no. dRiving??? out there and back - yes.....

diving.....nathan likes diving.....well use to.....i like diving for the choc!!!LOL

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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 00:09

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 00:09
It's a bit hard to dive out there, Burrinjuck is nearly empty.

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Follow Up By: Diver1 - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 14:29

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 14:29
nearly empty alright!!! spose we could dive for the sheep!!
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Follow Up By: Kev M - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 14:39

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 14:39
Luara,

Are you part Kiwi??

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Follow Up By: Diver1 - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 15:04

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 15:04
you got me for a second Kev till i looked at what i wrote!!!!

na, no kiwi in me...!!!

Just that theres lotsa sheep out there!!!! got caught out in a muster too while we were there!!! Ill try get the photo on here - pretty good one....

get back to uni....you've inspired me to do my uni work next yr at the library!!

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Follow Up By: Kev M - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 15:08

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 15:08
Kiwi Laura

The library should have free internet access, good thinking more ExplorOz surfing LOL

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (Qld) - Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 23:33

Wednesday, Oct 03, 2007 at 23:33
UNBELIEVABLE
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Follow Up By: Diver1 - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 15:05

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 15:05
you not YELLING are you???!!!!
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Reply By: Nav 8 - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 09:57

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 09:57
Welcome to the queue of unhappy 3 G owners...Nav.
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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 10:43

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 10:43
When are people going to stop complaining ?

Seriously is this your biggest problem in life?

Just for the record I have a LG TU 500 phone on the Next G net work with a car areal and a patch lead.

I also have a Telstra CDMA phone.

Fact 1 The CDMA reception stops 10 km out side Jabiru and at ide Jabiru leaving a non connection of approx 180km where as the next G there is only 50 km I can't get reception between Darwinthe turn off to the Kakadu hwy near Cooinda about 5 km.

Fact 2 The next G network works all the way from Jabiru to cooinda and some 50 km further it also works at Jim Jim camp ground 60 km from cooinda and 70 km from Jabiru.

Fact 3 The CDMA only works to the Adelaide River and 10 km out side Jabiru leaving a non connection of approx 180km where as the next G there is only 50 km I can't get reception between Darwin and Jabiru.

Fact 4 With or without the areal the Next G works way better than the CDMA net work between Darwin and Kakadu and Arnhemland, yes thats right the next G net work works in Oenpelli in Arnhemland.

If you think I'm just got lucky well I have 2 phones that get the same reception, so if you think I got really lucky, think again because I very rarely have a problem with my Qualcom GS sat phone either.



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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 10:54

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 10:54
Fact 1 should read

The CDMA stops 10 outside Jabiru and about 5 km outside Cooinda.

It looks like Optus tried to scramble my post.LOL

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Follow Up By: Diver1 - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 14:34

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 14:34
Im having a good whinge for a bloody good reason....pay all this money for a service that is suppose to be better and it aint.

Whether its just that area - along with many others - that arent better and have gone backwards i dunno but I know that Im not the only one complaining....and ye for today its the only thing I can whinge about because the kids are great and housework is done, Nathan is asleep ready for another and is happy....so today - its my biggest problem.

By the way - some call it 3G others next G - so what is it??? My phone has 3G in the top left corner.....

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Follow Up By: Hughd - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 14:50

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 14:50
If you do a search I think you will find a thread that explains about phone settings. If it says 3G, then you are probably configured to city access only. May also depend on your handset, but they were talking about having it set to Auto.
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 15:27

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 15:27
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:56

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:56
Steve: I realise you think you know everything but has it occurred to you that your experience of NextG may not be the same as someone at the other end of this huge country?

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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Friday, Oct 05, 2007 at 17:02

Friday, Oct 05, 2007 at 17:02
Mike just crawl back under your bridge.
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Reply By: Shaker - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:00

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:00
If you "can't believe it's really that bad", you obviously can't read.
I would say that, conservatively, somewhere around 70% of comments on this site, about 'Next-G', have been derogatory & has been the sole reason why we still have our CDMA.
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Follow Up By: Diver1 - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:22

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:22
Shaker,
Thats why I wrote that I cannt believe it - I have read the forum threads about it but thought that....well dunno what i thought...

So what your plan when no more CDMA - which is January....next week where we live!! Dont plan on having cdma forever just remember that it runs out !! It aint going to get any better between now and then....it took cdma years to get its act together!!

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:38

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:38
I guess that I am naive enough to believe that the Federal Government won't allow Telstra to switch off CDMA until Next G is fully operational.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:54

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:54
I have both GSM and CDMA - Telstra sent an SMS message to me a few weeks ago telling me they were closing the CDMA network down in Jan 2008 - I replied telling them that they weren't. We'll soon see who's correct :)

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Reply By:- Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:22

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:22
All this new digital and semi-digital technologies is pure cr@p. Oh, well, as least if comparing one to good analog mobile. Use to have one 10 years or so back. Those days mobile was made in proper places (not in China), been full of elements (not just one dogy chip), been size of brick (with appropriate weight), but they was warking. And warking everywhere!
Damn this progress.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:50

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:50
Love it! :)
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 18:09

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 18:09
The last sentence must be straight from the instructions!
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 18:16

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 18:16
Given he's someone who knows how to spell "appropriate" and "damn" correctly... I am fascinated to know what a "wark" is? :)

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 18:18

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 18:18
Dunno, but I think I shot one once!
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 18:27

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 18:27
Double love it!! :)
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Follow Up By:- Friday, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:08

Friday, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:08
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He-he-he :-) When I type very fast, I indeed can do silly mishaps :-) Please accept my apologies – English is not my first language. In fact I start to learn it after 30 :-) Anyway cannot believe how in whole universe I could write “wark” LOL. Twice LOL LOL.
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Reply By: DesF - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:34

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:34
Hi, I am still waiting to change over & I am waiting to see if Nokia brings out a more basic model , my mate has just changed his , its a Nokia 6120 Next G, and his shows a 3G icon in the top l/h corner in the town and it goes to Next G when in the country,
We are still doing our local testing ( Flinders area).
But it seems as good on the highway so far.
Cheers Des.
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:37

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 17:37
Welcome to privatised Telstra.
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Reply By: Member - Nifty1 (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 23:41

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 23:41
Hello Diver1
I've got a Next G phone and live in the Canberra area .
The phones I've had or the network is terrible, certainly not as good as my past GSM phones . I get far more dropouts now and I've not noticed any improvement in coverage around the area .
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 23:53

Thursday, Oct 04, 2007 at 23:53
When GSM replaced analogue there was a huge outcry about pee weak coverage, dropouts etc.

When CDMA was introduced to provide greater coverage in the country there was a huge outcry about pee weak coverage and dropouts etc.

When Next G was introduced... well, you know the story.

While I hate Telstra because of its systemic arrogance (I was a Telstra Dealer for a decade) they should be allowed to shut down the CDMA network and concentrate on getting the Next G network properly up to speed because when it works it's great.

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Reply By: obee - Friday, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:27

Friday, Oct 05, 2007 at 08:27
there was nothing wrong with cdma but for lack of towers which you would expect a long way out anyway. 3g was introduced to get us dummys to use a lot of expensive features that we dont really need. My mate's son works for Telstra and gave him a 3g so he could look at him while they talked. (wow) Mate could not get a signal in Cairns.

Telstra reminds me of the banks who did their best to tell the customer what they really wanted and screwed them. They both upset me so much I ditched them in favour of people who offer a service.

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Reply By: keepingitreal - Friday, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:12

Friday, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:12
As a family business,we have a few new nextG phones. One LG 550 (Telstra BLUE Tick of approval) with patch lead/ cdma broomstick in western nsw gets less reception than the new nokia 6120 which sits in a home made cradle with a proximity type booster suitable to a gsm phone, but linked to cdma aerial. Telstra reps said it wouldn't work, but it shines. I'm happy as i have a nokia phone (without the blue tick of approval ) which is a good phone and it performs wherever the LG 550 does and some. Another is the samsung A411 ( again blue tick approved), and in not so remote areas is absolutely hopeless. The Nokia outperforms it without any aerial assist. Next G does have it's problems with drop-outs and busy networks, My concern is that this will probably get worse when everyone has switched over from CDMA, but I guess this remains to be seen. We are all presuming at the moment. The so called experts at Telstra tell us that things will improve once the CDMA network is switched off!!! Here's hoping!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It seems at the moment there is no consistency with the service / reception. You can have FULL SIGNAL STRENGTH and the call will drop out due to " busy network". It's not as though this happens in the city with possibly thousands of phones within a few km's, we're talking country NSW with possibly hundreds of next G phones within a 50km radius. It remains to be seen that in the long run we will all have a better communications service provider with nextG.


my 2 bobs worth

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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Friday, Oct 05, 2007 at 15:10

Friday, Oct 05, 2007 at 15:10
I regulary use my next G as a Gsm phone with a different sim and there is no difference in performance (ie next G aint any better reception wise than ordinary phones)
Let alone coming close to CDMA performance.
If anything using the GSM is better as if there are recepton gaps while talking it wont cut straight out but keeps the connection for a bit . Much better than constant callbacks when on the edge of reception
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